Twisbrogan Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I think I've said it before but a large number of our supporters have now been programmed to view throwing a bit of money at promotion as a bad thing. I don't see Bury's squad as being one that would get them promoted unlike one or two others that are being built in this division. I think they're spending on players that are getting on a bit & a few that are a little overrated (or under-achieved). If we were doing that then, yes, I'd be wondering what the plan was beyond the short term - as a few of their fans are, given they've seen what can happen next. I wouldn't say I'm more bitter towards them & what they're spending, than I'm bitter towards any of the other 7 billion twats that are on this planet. It's not like they've done anything really upsetting like being Sheff Utd so good luck to them but I just don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 That's one on my DK list gone, but in reality we couldn't really have competed with Bradford. How is that list looking now? Care to share? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Kirkland has spent most of his career on the treatment table. That said I'm surprised and it's a major coup for them. I'm not expecting them to go up still but it will be an interesting season for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 It's a bit embarrassing all this small time bitterness towards Bury isn't it? Especially when it's on on Twitter for anyone and everyone to see. I only hope it goes tit's up for them because that would work in our favour. That aside, good luck to them. I'm envious. If it does work, at least it'll show our powers that be how it can be done. Of course we would love to be able to throw money about but there are other clubs to be envious about more than Bury. The 'if it's your club you'd be lapping it up may well be true', but that's with a blinkered view looking at it from your own club's perspective. Being able to watch impartially allows you to realise how irresponsible it all is. They've made some good signings for this level but if they don't get quick success they're looking at big problems. When it comes to envy I'm certainly looking more towards Scunthorpe, who are spending far more wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Bury never learn and it will all come crashing down. This is the club that less that two years ago were asking if they could keep the change on the turnstiles. I certainly wouldn't be lapping it up if it were us - once bitten, twice shy. The Kirkland signing is an odd one - he's spent his career on the treatment table and won't have come cheap. I've seen it said above that he'll be good if his injuries are behind him - well he's been blighted by injury throughout his career and he's now what, 32/33? Can't imagine his back will get better the older he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInAus Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 To be honest, after the Moore fiasco, I would rather be in our position than Bury's. The risk they are taking is huge and if they don't go up, will they be able to survive? Imagine the fans reaction too, all these players and we still get dicked by Oldham 6-0! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Can't imagine his back will get better the older he is. Ne'er a truer word spoken. Source: me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 To be honest, after the Moore fiasco, I would rather be in our position than Bury's. The risk they are taking is huge and if they don't go up, will they be able to survive? Imagine the fans reaction too, all these players and we still get dicked by Oldham 6-0! What is our position though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 History will repeat itself just like Rochdale. Have one good season (just like last time) and go down the season after but I think this time they won't recover and will end up doing a Stockport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Looking at it from another perspective - wouldn't us not cashing in on Kelly & Wilson see us passing up a similar amount of money to that which Bury have spent? Is that "irresponsible" too? Will it see us "doing a Stockport"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 Looking at it from another perspective - wouldn't us not cashing in on Kelly & Wilson see us passing up a similar amount of money to that which Bury have spent? Is that "irresponsible" too? Will it see us "doing a Stockport"? Considering both continue to be assets, no. We remain to run on a profit. Loaning money at high rates and spending that on players that aren't saleable and likely to decline during their time at your club is madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 What's the biggest fee we have paid in the last 10 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Looking at it from another perspective - wouldn't us not cashing in on Kelly & Wilson see us passing up a similar amount of money to that which Bury have spent? Is that "irresponsible" too? Will it see us "doing a Stockport"? I think it's different. Bury have signed LClarke and Pope on three year deals, plus PClarke on a two year deal. Add Mellis, Kirkland, Pugh, and that's touching a million quid in wages for the season (at a guess) for 6 players, all with various doubts regarding fitness/motivation etc, for a team who averaged 3700 fans last year. It's unsustainable, whereas we can sustain ourselves by keeping Wilson and Kelly, at least for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 What's the biggest fee we have paid in the last 10 years? Poleon 100k? Not sure what we paid for Kelly, because it was kind of tied up in the Korey deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I'm not convinced by Flitcroft but they look every inch a top 10 team whereas we look every inch a bottom 10 team. Will it go tits up? Who knows but they are probably going to have a good crack finding out in the next couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Didn't we pay money for Luke Beckett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesbitt1988 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 we paid 100k for poleon? seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Considering both continue to be assets, no. We remain to run on a profit. Loaning money at high rates and spending that on players that aren't saleable and likely to decline during their time at your club is madness. Is the high rate of interest actually payable though or is it just smoke & mirrors between various companies their owner is involved with? If they'd been repaying it at the levels it was originally reported surely they'd already have gone bust on those crowds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I'm not convinced by Flitcroft but they look every inch a top 10 team whereas we look every inch a bottom 10 team. If we still had Johnson, or another known quantity as manager, I'd say we should be looking at top 10+ (assuming we do ultimately sign a decent CB or two). The squad is (or will be) as good as we've gone into a season with in a long time. We just don't know what we're going to get from the manager. That said, we could get more from him than Johnson or A N Other....... The new manager (if some are to be believed) might be even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 http://www.thesouthend.co.uk/blog/official-football-league-teams-twitter-and-hashtags/ This is quite a useful list if you're as sad as me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Martyn Woolford signs for Sheff Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmantonhoward Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Wigan have signed Will Grigg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Wigan have signed Will Grigg Fee thought to be £1m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Crewe sign David fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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