Crusoe Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Regime implies some kind of non-aimless direction and strategy, however malicious. I'm not sure we're at that level of competence yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wozzer Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm sure after having their fingers burnt with the Richards saga where people were expecting him to go for millions they decided they didn't want to take the risk of missing out on free cash again. No win situation for them. If they cashed it in and he got sold they lose because they get slated. If they'd have waited and he ran down his contract and they got nothing then people would have been up in arms that they didn't sell the clause. They keep making the wrong decision though. Sadly it's becoming something of a habit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Charlton seem to have hit the right note with their Support the Team, not the Regime campaign. Support the Divs, not the Spivs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm sure after having their fingers burnt with the Richards saga where people were expecting him to go for millions they decided they didn't want to take the risk of missing out on free cash again. No win situation for them. If they cashed it in and he got sold they lose because they get slated. If they'd have waited and he ran down his contract and they got nothing then people would have been up in arms that they didn't sell the clause. Sell ons are just bonus money, no way you can budget for it and I've never heard of any other club selling one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Support the Divs, not the Spivs Nailed it. Crowdfunding for a flag to commence straight away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Well it all started with Ched Evans and ended with this bombshell....anus horribilis is a :censored:in understatement. Is there anything else Joy wants to apologise for?? You could not make this :censored: up!!! I have never been so disillusioned over the running of this football club.......how much more is there to come out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki'smoustache Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Charlton seem to have hit the right note with their Support the Team, not the Regime campaign. Indeed. I think that public pressure through the media (Chron etc) is important. If enough people put enough pressure on local journos, they might actually start publicising our concerns (and not club PR) and perhaps even provoke the club into some sort of adequate response... Mind you, they don't want to risk losing access at the club so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 In January 2014 The Chron reported: "Brentford are said to be ready to offer £300,000, with a potential extra £100,000 in add-ons for (Tarkowski)." If that was true, and the sell out of the sell on clause at £150k was also true, it would mean Latics would have got a maximum of £550,000 for Tarky. If Latics had been offered a straight cash deal of £550k in 2014, would we have considered this to be reasonable at the time for a 21 year old in his first full season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Kingsley Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Sell ons are just bonus money, no way you can budget for it and I've never heard of any other club selling one. And it's not as if the money went back into the club. The lengths some people will go to to defend these shysters is truly baffling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 In January 2014 The Chron reported: "Brentford are said to be ready to offer £300,000, with a potential extra £100,000 in add-ons for (Tarkowski)." If that was true, and the sell out of the sell on clause at £150k was also true, it would mean Latics would have got a maximum of £550,000 for Tarky. If Latics had been offered a straight cash deal of £550k in 2014, would we have considered this to be reasonable at the time for a 21 year old in his first full season? No, Crewe sell their best young players for millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy55555 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 No, Crewe sell their best young players for millions. Look at Peterboro's model as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 How much did Sheff United get for Harry McGuire? £4 million wasn't it?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 How much did Sheff United get for Harry McGuire? £4 million wasn't it?! He was miles ahead of Tarkowski at the time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 He was miles ahead of Tarkowski at the time though.Agree to some extent. Worth 10 times more? But the potential of Tarkowski was there for all to see. We should have had massive sell on clauses in place if we were going to let him go for a tenth of what they got for McGuire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 From my observations there are no more Tarkowski's to sell, the family silver has gone, what will SC do without the transfer revenue in future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 No the nasty boys don't believe me and owtb has turned into a dictatorship where the popular gang only believe what they want and are oblivious to the fools we have running the club unless it smacks them in the face. Apart from that I am good lol You sweetheart? lol Didn't know a 'popular gang' existed? It's only a message board don't take things to heart... None of us know anything we all speculate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 From my observations there are no more Tarkowski's to sell, the family silver has gone, what will SC do without the transfer revenue in future? All these stars in the youth team you keep telling us about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Agree to some extent. Worth 10 times more? But the potential of Tarkowski was there for all to see. We should have had massive sell on clauses in place if we were going to let him go for a tenth of what they got for McGuire. It would seem we weren't in a position to do so. Could we have held on until the summer and got more? Only the lads know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 How much did Sheff United get for Harry McGuire? £4 million wasn't it?! About the time we sold Tarky, Hartlepool sold their young CH that was on a par with him and they got £1 Mill. Always thought we were unlucky with deals, now I realise it's just sheer incompetence. How SC has made a successful business in the states defies believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 About the time we sold Tarky, Hartlepool sold their young CH that was on a par with him and they got £1 Mill. Always thought we were unlucky with deals, now I realise it's just sheer incompetence. How SC has made a successful business in the states defies believe 500k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 About the time we sold Tarky, Hartlepool sold their young CH that was on a par with him and they got £1 Mill. Always thought we were unlucky with deals, now I realise it's just sheer incompetence. How SC has made a successful business in the states defies believe I have met some very wealthy businessmen who have been very 'lucky' to partner up with someone intelligent! At the time of selling Tarky I mentioned that Hartlepool lad and was shouted down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Blitz and co put an extra 2 mill or whatever in for the stand but suddenly we are so peppermint that they wouldn't go for an extra 150k. Excuse me whilst I suspend my disbelief... Sorry yeah they're rolling in it hence the timely and well facilitated build. Ffs, the club has funded the majority of that stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 We may have lost put this time but at least we made Blackpool pay the £75k up front for Philliskirk rather than 3 instalments. That's hard nosed negotiating for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Kingsley Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 We may have lost put this time but at least we made Blackpool pay the £75k up front for Philliskirk rather than 3 instalments. That's hard nosed negotiating for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Sorry yeah they're rolling in it hence the timely and well facilitated build. Ffs, the club has funded the majority of that stand. Where will the future income/profit from the new stand be going? Would you boycott the new stand if it was found all profits where not going back into the club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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