BP1960 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) Anyone else think Dunn was being a smug **** on Twitter when he talked about the transfer, knowing full well we had sold the clause? In his first tweet he was pleased for us thinking like we did and there was a big sell on fee. Edited February 2, 2016 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueInAus Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 No. His first tweet about it suggested he thought we were getting a few quid out of it I thought that at the time, but now I read it as being sarcastic. OAFC will be pleased etc Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I thought that at the time, but now I read it as being sarcastic. OAFC will be pleased etc Just a thought. Sarcastic? That'll never do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 The club release no statement and everybody speculates as to whether or not we actually got anything. Lots of bollocks about 'I know this' and 'I know that'. The club then release a statement and people whine about it, claiming it tells you nothing etc etc. I tell you what, it's depressing going to the games these days but it's damn gut churning coming on here. Some people need to pull their heads out of their arses and realise the club owe them absolutely NOTHING. If they don't want to tell you how much they got for whatever deal they don't have to do. And if corney and co do read anything on here then it's no wonder they keep so much secret. Unbelievable. This is my first post for god knows how long and probably my last for as long too. I just can't handle it. This 'Age of Technology' makes it easy for keyboard warriors to voice their opinions and big-up their self importance. It is anonymity at its finest. The sheer amount of :censored: and vitriol posted on Twitter is actually embarrassing. People who consider themselves "in the know" or people who just spout so much misdirected bollocks...it really beggars belief. It's football not :censored:ing politics! You are right, the club owes us nothing and we do not have the divine right to be privy to everything the owners and directors do. Whatever happened to going to a match on a Saturday, watching the football and then going home or to the pub? All this having to know the ins-and-outs of a duck's arse, it's :censored:ing annoying and actually gets in the way of watching the game and enjoying the sport. Go to the match, enjoy the moment. If that's not possible, then don't go and do something else instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm confused. Isn't the latest statement about Tarky very clear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 This 'Age of Technology' makes it easy for keyboard warriors to voice their opinions and big-up their self importance. It is anonymity at its finest. The sheer amount of :censored: and vitriol posted on Twitter is actually embarrassing. People who consider themselves "in the know" or people who just spout so much misdirected bollocks...it really beggars belief. It's football not :censored:ing politics! You are right, the club owes us nothing and we do not have the divine right to be privy to everything the owners and directors do. Whatever happened to going to a match on a Saturday, watching the football and then going home or to the pub? All this having to know the ins-and-outs of a duck's arse, it's :censored:ing annoying and actually gets in the way of watching the game and enjoying the sport. Go to the match, enjoy the moment. If that's not possible, then don't go and do something else instead. so what are you doing on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 This 'Age of Technology' makes it easy for keyboard warriors to voice their opinions and big-up their self importance. It is anonymity at its finest. The sheer amount of :censored: and vitriol posted on Twitter is actually embarrassing. People who consider themselves "in the know" or people who just spout so much misdirected bollocks...it really beggars belief. It's football not :censored:ing politics! You are right, the club owes us nothing and we do not have the divine right to be privy to everything the owners and directors do. Whatever happened to going to a match on a Saturday, watching the football and then going home or to the pub? All this having to know the ins-and-outs of a duck's arse, it's :censored:ing annoying and actually gets in the way of watching the game and enjoying the sport. Go to the match, enjoy the moment. If that's not possible, then don't go and do something else instead. On the other side of the coin fans no longer go to the ground with placards demanding the board resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nonaenever Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 used to love those old men with "the end of the world is nigh" placards in the 70s 80s - whatever happened to them - perhaps the end of their world was nigh?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw_oldh857 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 it's :censored: seeing us divided an arguing about this. if it means dropping into league 2 to make a change at the top then so be it fao the club be honest with us as it feels like your having us for mugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I feel sorry for Shez. He came here and Corney stated in the media that he will get Shez all the transfer targets he asked for. There's more backtracking on that statement by the day with the constant teasing of players being signed imminently and big names at that. Yesterday was the opportunity to sign players and get a few days training under their belts ahead of Blackpool. We had weeks prior to yesterday to plan, approach and secure signings....it obviously didn't happen. The statement from Shez reminds of the one from Johnson when he was forced to comment about Ched Evans signing because the board hid away in the boardroom. Make a statement but make sure that statement paints the board positively and the board are fully supporting the manager with the manager loving them in return. Sounds like Cameron's EU negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddot_m Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Don't worry about the toilets, half the neanderthals who go to Latics will piss on the floor & their own shoes anyway. That's why it's wet in the concourse! Bloody Oldhamers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drphibes Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Think one of our main problems is we let players go on the cheap. I am sure most will accept the fact that we are and always will be a selling club, but do we have to take bottom dollar for our assets ? Crewe over the years have uncovered star players and they have played hard ball when it comes to getting the right amount of cash for them. Seth Johnson, Dean Ashton, Rob Hulse, Nicky Maynard have all gone for over a million quid. Why do we seem to think its ok to flog Tarky for approx £300000 ? The problem we have now is other clubs know full well that they can bid rock bottom and probably come away with the player they want, Crewe on the other hand must have a reputation for not accepting low ball offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manshaw Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Crewe may have got better deals for their players....but it doesn't look like they invest it back into the playing side. I bet their fans want to know where their money from those sales has gone. How many times have they been out of the bottom 4 when in league 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Think one of our main problems is we let players go on the cheap. I am sure most will accept the fact that we are and always will be a selling club, but do we have to take bottom dollar for our assets ? Crewe over the years have uncovered star players and they have played hard ball when it comes to getting the right amount of cash for them. Seth Johnson, Dean Ashton, Rob Hulse, Nicky Maynard have all gone for over a million quid. Why do we seem to think its ok to flog Tarky for approx £300000 ? The problem we have now is other clubs know full well that they can bid rock bottom and probably come away with the player they want, Crewe on the other hand must have a reputation for not accepting low ball offers.I agree that our negotiations appear weak but in fairness we haven't had anyone anywhere near that calibre to sell! Plus how many times have Crewe finished above us in the last 20 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) As a limited company, will our records be made public, so finding out what we earned from the transfer wont be hard? (I don't know, it is a question for those who do) Edited February 3, 2016 by pukka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 As a limited company, will our records be made public, so finding out what we earned from the transfer wont be hard? (I don't know, it is a question for those who do) Minimum reporting requirements for a small business mean specifics like that aren't required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatchLatics Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 As a limited company, will our records be made public, so finding out what we earned from the transfer wont be hard? (I don't know, it is a question for those who do) Yep. Will be on Companies House when our audited accounts are published. Not sure when this is as on my phone at the moment. Bare in mind that it will be grouped with other fees received i.e Philliskirk, so you will never know the exact value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Does this thread represent the biggest shark that's ever been jumped on OWTB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJazzer Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Crewe may have got better deals for their players....but it doesn't look like they invest it back into the playing side. I bet their fans want to know where their money from those sales has gone. How many times have they been out of the bottom 4 when in league 1? They may be at the foot end of league one, but if they didn't play hardball they may have been in the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) Yep. Will be on Companies House when our audited accounts are published. Not sure when this is as on my phone at the moment. Bare in mind that it will be grouped with other fees received i.e Philliskirk, so you will never know the exact value. As o4u says, we're below the size threshold. Unaudited abridged accounts only. My accounting is fairly rusty, but I think transfer fees would be reflected as the value of players' registrations under intangible assets. For the last published accounts (y/e 2014) that was £14k (bear in mind that's a net reflection of additions, disposals and the value of contracts in place). The value of Tarky's transfer may also be split across accounting periods, depending on how the deal was structured. The sale of the sell-on clause won't likely be in the same year. The private company filing deadline for accounts for club's current financial year is March 2017, so don't hold your breath for anything useful or timely. Edited February 3, 2016 by Crusoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Yep. Will be on Companies House when our audited accounts are published. Not sure when this is as on my phone at the moment. Bare in mind that it will be grouped with other fees received i.e Philliskirk, so you will never know the exact value. Why are fees grouped together? a proper audit would demand items are individualised. That's what happened where I worked, football clubs should be no different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) Oh dear...the day folk start listening to the "we have no right to know about finances" bollocks that Blue Jazzer, Wardie, Stagger Lee and several others are peddling is the day folk deserve every disaster we hit! They must think that Chris Moore was a decent guy! Edited February 3, 2016 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 They may be at the foot end of league one, but if they didn't play hardball they may have been in the conference. So by your own admission...the fact we DONT play hardball means this possible forthcoming relegation could soon be followed by another... But hey...let's not worry about that eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wozzer Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Why are fees grouped together? a proper audit would demand items are individualised. That's what happened where I worked, football clubs should be no different. They're a small company, don't even need an audit which pretty much allows them to do what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) Oh dear...the day folk start listening to the "we have no right to know about finances" bollocks that Blue Jazzer, Wardie, Stagger Lee and several others are peddling is the day folk deserve every disaster we hit! They must think that Chris Moore was a decent guy! We don't do though. Do we? I understand why people want to know but that doesn't mean we have a right to know. Edited February 3, 2016 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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