Bobledgersheart Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: It's an arbitrator rather than a court. Very different process. Basic premise should be the same though...........listen to both sides and decide who to believe. Can't see why Scholes would bother with the process to be honest unless he wanted to take money off the owner. Just walk away and put it down to experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Bobledgersheart said: Basic premise should be the same though...........listen to both sides and decide who to believe. Can't see why Scholes would bother with the process to be honest unless he wanted to take money off the owne. Just walk away and put it down to experience. sounds like he wasn't the initiator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, oafc 123 said: On his interview on BT Sports, he didn't say the owner picked the team but gave subtle hints who to play. He said the last match he was in charge he was told he wasn't allowed to play a particular player. We all give hints on who to play, but managers wouldn't change a team because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 How do you prove this in court though unless you have a recorded conversation or somekind of email trail you are pretty much screwed arent you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinsDuckEgg Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 41 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: sounds like he wasn't the initiator If memory serves, Abdallah was quoted at the time of Scholes' departure that he was going to seek compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 40 minutes ago, BP1960 said: We all give hints on who to play, but managers wouldn't change a team because of it. There is a difference when it's your boss who is doing it. Especially when AL had promised Scholes that he would have full control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Didn't Pete Clarke say in his Q&A with the Trust (still available online) that Mr President came to see him when PS walked and asked him to take the job on and not play? Probably just a coincidence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinsDuckEgg Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, oafc 123 said: On his interview on BT Sports, he didn't say the owner picked the team but gave subtle hints who to play. He said the last match he was in charge he was told he wasn't allowed to play a particular player. True, but he played that player (Clarke) and there were no repercussions. QED no interference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Didn't Pete Clarke say in his Q&A with the Trust (still available online) that Mr President came to see him when PS walked and asked him to take the job on and not play? Probably just a coincidence... I thought that was after Frank Bunn left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Nah, it was definitely after Scholes left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, RobinsDuckEgg said: True, but he played that player (Clarke) and there were no repercussions. QED no interference. It's definitively interference if that's what happened. What manager wants to be put in a position where they have to directly ignore their boss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, RobinsDuckEgg said: True, but he played that player (Clarke) and there were no repercussions. QED no interference. The repercussion was that he resigned shortly after Ducko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: I thought that was after Frank Bunn left? 1 hour 17 minutes into this, Clarke says Scholes wasn't left to his own devices. 1 hour 21 minutes he confirms he was asked to take over when PS leaves and not play himself... https://trustoldham.co.uk/2020/06/05/qa-with-peter-clarke/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinsDuckEgg Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: It's definitively interference if that's what happened. What manager wants to be put in a position where they have to directly ignore their boss? In my experience (not in football) happens often - if the boss accepts it as he appears to have done, then Scholes seems to have no case. 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: The repercussion was that he resigned shortly after Ducko. Exactly, but you completely missed the point, and not for the first time. The repercussion came from Scholes not Lemsagem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, RobinsDuckEgg said: In my experience (not in football) happens often - if the boss accepts it as he appears to have done, then Scholes seems to have no case. Exactly, but you completely missed the point, and not for the first time. The repercussion came from Scholes not Lemsagem. Well I mean I suppose one of the Lemsagams could have gone and tried to change the team sheet but I'm not sure they would have been successful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Dave_Og said: It's definitively interference if that's what happened. What manager wants to be put in a position where they have to directly ignore their boss? Was it opinion given or interference though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, RobinsDuckEgg said: In my experience (not in football) happens often - if the boss accepts it as he appears to have done, then Scholes seems to have no case. Exactly, but you completely missed the point, and not for the first time. The repercussion came from Scholes not Lemsagem. Scholes probably didn't have a case but just thought AL was a lying cunt so thought fuck it I outta here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Was it opinion given or interference though? He should of just minded his own business. And leave the team selection to the person he employs to make that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinsDuckEgg Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, oafc 123 said: Scholes probably didn't have a case but just thought AL was a lying cunt so thought fuck it I outta here That. Also he didn't fancy the hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, RobinsDuckEgg said: That. Also he didn't fancy the hard work. By hard work, you mean AL I take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Scoles should have asked Clark to be a witness, if as Clark says he wasn't left to his own devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 35 minutes ago, al_bro said: Scoles should have asked Clark to be a witness, if as Clark says he wasn't left to his own devices. I get the impression Scholes doesn’t really give a toss - it was AL who brought the case. “A significant 5 figure sum” is a piss in the ocean to someone like Scholes and if one of the “in the know” accounts on Twitter are correct Scholes is saying AL shouldn’t be budgeting with it as it will be some time before he sees a penny. be nice for him to be the one chasing payments for once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, BP1960 said: Was it opinion given or interference though? I don't think it's even up for debate in the overall context is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Al vindicated, OWTB miscarriage of justice. Said it before and I'll say it again, every chairman that's ever been in football will leave the manager/head coach in no doubt who he doesn't rate, does rate in meetings. Is this pressure?. Also it seems accepted when it suits that (x) player didn't start another game because it would have triggered a new contract. I guess it depends who's talking or who the the player is. We've all seen some shite wrote down the years guessing what's really going on...and yes I'll have been guilty of it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, Lags said: Al vindicated, OWTB miscarriage of justice. Said it before and I'll say it again, every chairman that's ever been in football will leave the manager/head coach in no doubt who he doesn't rate, does rate in meetings. Is this pressure?. Also it seems accepted when it suits that (x) player didn't start another game because it would have triggered a new contract. I guess it depends who's talking or who the the player is. We've all seen some shite wrote down the years guessing what's really going on...and yes I'll have been guilty of it to. It's funny because with all of Corney's faults, I don't think he was ever accused of tampering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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