Ryan Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, Lags said: Is this a new thing happening at clubs? no, it's happened many many a time at many many a club. Including Latics in the past. You've plenty of topics to whip AL with, this isn't one of them. Examples of healthy well run clubs where this type of thing happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: I think you meant £12k "is that it" as in, "is that only how much it is?" Whereas Lags thought you meant "is that it?" as in, as that all the problem is, when it's clear in the point of paying it is much bigger than that. He knew that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Lags said: Is this a new thing happening at clubs? no, it's happened many many a time at many many a club. Including Latics in the past. You've plenty of topics to whip AL with, this isn't one of them. 22 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: Not at all. I thought COG had been released...as in...nothing is said and then he pops up at another club. Hadn't realised he was with the Youth. Coke, I knew was under contract still. I just assumed we were finding ways to remove him from the club. AL wants them off the books...no issue with that at all. I hope it works. They aren't available selection. It happens at every club up and down the land...Pulis was told he couldn't play Downing last season coz it triggered a new contract if he did. Stop making it out like AL invented this course of action for unwanted players. If he starts saying Sefil should start over Wheater every week, then I'll start to agree it's still going on. Fair enough. I take your points about contractual issues, and Coke was nowhere near the side last year so I can see why they would push him out. O’grady’s situation still seems odd to me. Top pro, made a lot of appearances and always gives his best. Was offered an option on the original deal, and it was triggered. Now he’s not allowed near the first team. Edited August 2, 2019 by League one forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Ryan said: Examples of healthy well run clubs where this type of thing happens? Really Ryan?, even Georgie Best was sent to train with the kids!! It's been a tactic employed to get rid of players since year dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, League one forever said: Fair enough. I take your points about contractual issues, and Coke was nowhere near the side last year so I can see why they would push him out. O’grady’s situation still seems odd to me. Top pro, made a lot of appearances and always gives his best. Was offered an option on the original deal, and it was triggered. Now he’s not allowed near the first team. He’s awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, Lags said: Really Ryan?, even Georgie Best was sent to train with the kids!! It's been a tactic employed to get rid of players since year dot. Yep, really. At present, which well run clubs employ this tactic to force players out of the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor_Coconut Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, super_blue said: There is money due to AL I believe as well that’s one reason there is a stand off. He believes OEC owe him £50k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, LightDN123 said: He’s awful He’s better than Vera. It’s a low bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, Ryan said: Yep, really. At present, which well run clubs employ this tactic to force players out of the club? It would be far easier to name clubs that haven't down the years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, League one forever said: He’s better than Vera. It’s a low bar. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ryan said: Yep, really. At present, which well run clubs employ this tactic to force players out of the club? check out the link for plenty of examples Honestly, let this one go brother...... https://www.google.co.uk/search?sa=N&q=sent+to+train+with+the+youth+team&tbm=isch&source=univ&hl=en&ved=2ahUKEwjP4aW-ieTjAhVkURUIHQ5VC_o4FBDsCXoECAgQJA&biw=1920&bih=963 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ryan said: Yep, really. At present, which well run clubs employ this tactic to force players out of the club? You missed it above then Here it is again for you... 28 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: <snip>...Pulis was told he couldn't play Downing last season coz it triggered a new contract if he did. <snip> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Some might say it wasn't very smart of them to allow O'Grady's extention to be triggered if they wanted rid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 minute ago, deyres42 said: Some might say it wasn't very smart of them to allow O'Grady's extention to be triggered if they wanted rid... So are you saying they should have interfered with team selection? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 29 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Anybody....? Harry For me, with the club owing only £12,000, it clearly shows there is more than outstanding monies owed to the OEC in the way of the proposed SLA being signed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, super_blue said: There is money due to AL I believe as well that’s one reason there is a stand off. Maybe if the club actually met with the FLG then they could discuss it and resolve the issue 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Come off it, that’s not the same as what Abdallah’s doing. Emailing the gaffer saying who he should play and banishing players to the youth team because they(/their agents in the case of Hunty) have done something to upset the regime, regardless of their ability/importance to the team, is in no way comparable to making a financial decision to avoid playing a player who is deemed surplus to requirements. If what you’ve described with Downing is true then that’s what happened at Latics with Andy Taylor last season - I had no problem with that because he was shite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, Senor_Coconut said: He believes OEC owe him £50k As in the current management group (FLG) who took over at the end of May? Or the previous management of the OEC that was our current landlord Brassbank? Any idea what the £50K is for? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, tGWB said: Harry For me, with the club owing only £12,000, it clearly shows there is more than outstanding monies owed to the OEC in the way of the proposed SLA being signed off Don't indulge him, he's just hanging out the reply for his troops to load off on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ryan said: Come off it, that’s not the same as what Abdallah’s doing. Emailing the gaffer saying who he should play and banishing players to the youth team because they(/their agents in the case of Hunty) have done something to upset the regime, regardless of their ability/importance to the team, is in no way comparable to making a financial decision to avoid playing a player who is deemed surplus to requirements. If what you’ve described with Downing is true then that’s what happened at Latics with Andy Taylor last season - I had no problem with that because he was shite... So it's OK , some of the time? Honestly this happens everywhere. Down the era's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lags said: Don't indulge him, he's just hanging out the reply for his troops to load off on. What does that even mean ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lags said: So are you saying they should have interfered with team selection? No but given that they were doing anyway they probably should have done in this instance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Just now, tGWB said: What does that even mean ? It means he wasn't really asking a the question to be answered sensibly by you. Like in which you have. He will now claim contrary, but it doesn't really matter. I mustn't bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, deyres42 said: No but given that they were doing anyway they probably should have done in this instance... So you are saying they should interfere with team selection. Blimey, it's hard to understand this Al bashing malarkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: Would he then be gambling that the OEC/FLG won't pursue the money through legal channels and potentially jeopardise our season even further... ? This is how they will end up owning the club. He can't pay his bills, simple as. Unlike Corney AL wont be able to ask the landlords for help. We get the club back in one piece. Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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