yarddog73 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, tGWB said: Apologies for quoting myself but does anybody know ? I'm sure those within the FLG do it might be worth picking it up with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 22 hours ago, wiseowl said: We know AL has had very poor advice in the past i.e. he apparently thought he was purchasing "everything" from the off; not just a cotton owl badge and a footy team. 1. did he tho? or did he say the exact opposite to this in his very first interviews?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Monty Burns said: 1. did he tho? or did he say the exact opposite to this in his very first interviews?? I thought I heard, or read, very early on that he genuinely thought he'd bought everything; lock, stock and 2 smoking barrels, Monty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Monty Burns said: 1. did he tho? or did he say the exact opposite to this in his very first interviews?? 7 minutes ago, wiseowl said: I thought I heard, or read, very early on that he genuinely thought he'd bought everything; lock, stock and 2 smoking barrels, Monty. His very first press conference on mainstream news both he, and Mark Moisley confirmed it was the badge only. He had indicated to Simon Brooke previously he was buying the lot who promptly informed him otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, wiseowl said: I thought I heard, or read, very early on that he genuinely thought he'd bought everything; lock, stock and 2 smoking barrels, Monty. You can imagine that's how Corney sold it to him though, another cunt of a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Would the club then still owe Blitz the cost of finishing off the North stand? Was it not £3.8 million? It's a right mess isn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, underdog said: Would the club then still owe Blitz the cost of finishing off the main stand? Was it not £3.8 million? It's a right mess isn't it Yes probably but I suppose the clubs argument is they want use of it regardless of what Blitz put in and why has he come out of it holding all the cards despite the club contributing? I haven't seen anything in there related to the Community Trust, why is this given substantial funding was given on the proviso that they'd have a working space? Completely agree though what a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Monty Burns said: 1. did he tho? or did he say the exact opposite to this in his very first interviews?? Exactly yet some are thick enough to believe the line that Corney duped him. He literally says he hasn't bought the ground or stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, wiseowl said: I thought I heard, or read, very early on that he genuinely thought he'd bought everything; lock, stock and 2 smoking barrels, Monty. He did say that. He's a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Just now, Dave_Og said: He did say that. He's a liar. As above His very first press conference both he and Mark Moisley said the opposite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Chaddyexile84 said: As above His very first press conference both he and Mark Moisley said the opposite Do you have a link to this I can't find it anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Do you have a link to this I can't find it anywhere? Neither can I but it was 100% on BBC and ITV - he bought the badge and knew it Amazed how many fans have forgotten it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 2 hours ago, wiseowl said: I thought I heard, or read, very early on that he genuinely thought he'd bought everything; lock, stock and 2 smoking barrels, Monty. 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: He did say that. He's a liar. 16 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Do you have a link to this I can't find it anywhere? Does mention it here though https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/oldham-athletic-abdallah-lemsagam-takeover-14208722 And here https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11730/11223449/abdallah-lemsagam-completes-oldham-takeover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 The bit about the North Stand / land is from 11:45. If you watch the full 16 minutes, it's less painful if you stick a nail in your foot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 What is the case though? That an illegal transaction took place to remove the stadium from latics? If so (it won't be and it'll come to nothing) I'm not sure Blitz can claim his money back. If I paid for my mates extension and had a claim to own it dismissed in court I'd not get the cash back. It'd be tough shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 By the time he completed he knew what he had bought, but at some point he believed he was getting the lot until informed by Brooke. By then he was prob in love with the idea of owning a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 4 hours ago, yarddog73 said: Yes probably but I suppose the clubs argument is they want use of it regardless of what Blitz put in and why has he come out of it holding all the cards despite the club contributing? I haven't seen anything in there related to the Community Trust, why is this given substantial funding was given on the proviso that they'd have a working space? Completely agree though what a mess. Cheers. I built OACT into the OASF strategy. To provide them a home with facilities to continue their great work as well as the Academy. I think FLG had them in the plan as well as the club too. Defo a dysfunctional mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 6 hours ago, underdog said: Would the club then still owe Blitz the cost of finishing off the main stand? Was it not £3.8 million? It's a right mess isn't it No. The club can only claim 700k worth of the stand. (The grant money) The other money all came from blitz- either through money owed to him from the council or capital he put in. You can’t claim ownership of something you own circa 8% of. If by some miracle AL wins (which he won’t) - I’d imagine Blitz would owe the club 700k, giving the grant money back to the club. Which AL would just pocket- and maybe buy the stench a little pie van to celebrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, League one forever said: No. The club can only claim 700k worth of the stand. (The grant money) The other money all came from blitz- either through money owed to him from the council or capital he put in. You can’t claim ownership of something you own circa 8% of. If by some miracle AL wins (which he won’t) - I’d imagine Blitz would owe the club 700k, giving the grant money back to the club. Which AL would just pocket- and maybe buy the stench a little pie van to celebrate. He also owes about £400k in rent so will probably only pick up £300k minus fees for any late payments added to it etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, adamoafc said: He also owes about £400k in rent so will probably only pick up £300k minus fees for any late payments added to it etc. And when you take away the legal costs his best case scenario appears to be nearly f-all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: And when you take away the legal costs his best case scenario appears to be nearly f-all. If he wins to be fair I would imagine Blitz would pay those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Just now, adamoafc said: If he wins to be fair I would imagine Blitz would pay those. That in itself seems unlikely unless Blitz is the only Jewish businessman in the world who doesn't have access to a number of highly competent lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 12 hours ago, Clifford said: What is the case though? That an illegal transaction took place to remove the stadium from latics? If so (it won't be and it'll come to nothing) I'm not sure Blitz can claim his money back. If I paid for my mates extension and had a claim to own it dismissed in court I'd not get the cash back. It'd be tough shit. Your analogy doesn’t really work does it? Closer to the Oldham situation would be, you own a home and rent the house to your mate. You build a nice extension to the house for him to use and he turns around and sues you saying he should own the extension because he arranged a grant to pay for a portion of the cost. Imagine you are the judge, what’s your verdict? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 10 hours ago, adamoafc said: He also owes about £400k in rent so will probably only pick up £300k minus fees for any late payments added to it etc. also minus legal costs, so maybe a wash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrickyholden Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 11 hours ago, League one forever said: No. The club can only claim 700k worth of the stand. (The grant money) The other money all came from blitz- either through money owed to him from the council or capital he put in. You can’t claim ownership of something you own circa 8% of. If by some miracle AL wins (which he won’t) - I’d imagine Blitz would owe the club 700k, giving the grant money back to the club. Which AL would just pocket- and maybe buy the stench a little pie van to celebrate. Is this definitely right. Seem to have the feeling at the time that money from transfers and cup runs may have been used to fund the stand too. No evidence whatsoever to back this up though.. Suppose one way or another this is true, as these funds would have meant less money from T3A needed to fund day to day, so they could afford more for the stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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