deyres42 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: If you cant see his potential for being a future coach/manager then you must be walking around with your eyes shut!! The lad seems determined to play on for as long as he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 48 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Based on? He's the consummate professional, humble, a leader of men and generally very highly regarded within the game from top to bottom, he just wants to play football and probably has the same passion and desire he had at 18. Add to that he's honourable as no doubt he's had the opportunity on several occasions to manage the team but has chosen to give his all to his playing career. I've no doubt one day he'll give management a go, not many succeed but from the outside he seems to have plenty of attributes which would stand him in good stead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 and that may yet happen, but lets stop making other peoples minds up for them eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: He's the consummate professional, humble, a leader of men and generally very highly regarded within the game from top to bottom, he just wants to play football and probably has the same passion and desire he had at 18. Add to that he's honourable as no doubt he's had the opportunity on several occasions to manage the team but has chosen to give his all to his playing career. I've no doubt one day he'll give management a go, not many succeed but from the outside he seems to have plenty of attributes which would stand him in good stead. l was at a match early recently and he got lapped in the warm up, the coach picked up the cones and walked off but Clarkey still did his last shuttle anyway on his own. love that. nobody would have cared or even noticed, but still he did it. love honesty like that, he is just a class human being really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 22 minutes ago, deyres42 said: The lad seems determined to play on for as long as he can. And then become an agent apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: And then become an agent apparently Quite possibly, I know he is well regarded at the PFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 1 minute ago, deyres42 said: Quite possibly, I know he is well regarded at the PFA. I think that would be a waste of his skills, although I imagine the money would be ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 39 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: If you cant see his potential for being a future coach/manager then you must be walking around with your eyes shut!! Yes, he has done a great job of shoring up & organising our defence and motivating the team on the pitch since he arrived-hasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, True Tic said: I think that would be a waste of his skills, although I imagine the money would be ok Should imagine he will know as well as anyone how fickle and frankly dangerous the world of management is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Should imagine he will know as well as anyone how fickle and frankly dangerous the world of management is. True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 47 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: If you cant see his potential for being a future coach/manager then you must be walking around with your eyes shut!! What badges has he got? What experience of coaching? He's a proper pro and been a good player. In no way does that mean he will have any success as a manager. It baffles me that people want him to take over. How many games does Peter Clarke get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 49 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: Yes, he has done a great job of shoring up & organising our defence and motivating the team on the pitch since he arrived-hasn't he? I think you’ll find Hogan has been far more culpable for errors and even at 40 I would prefer to keep Clarke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 hours ago, oafc1955 said: I think you’ll find Hogan has been far more culpable for errors and even at 40 I would prefer to keep Clarke! Hogan is at fault for the vast majority. clarke alongside a younger defender i.e Okagbue/Sutton is the way to go. Accept the loss on Hogan for all he’s supposed to be a good character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 On 12/29/2022 at 2:05 PM, mcfluff1985 said: What badges has he got? What experience of coaching? He's a proper pro and been a good player. In no way does that mean he will have any success as a manager. It baffles me that people want him to take over. How many games does Peter Clarke get? Similar profile as a certain Jurgen Klopp, when he finished playing for Mainz05 and went onto successfully manage them in 2001. The rest is history. Recently, Klopp has been asked to "go back to school" to renew his coaching badge and described it as "ridiculous". A favourite saying of his is along the lines of "the school of life teaches you far more than any coaching qualification". Clarkey has been there and done it under many managers; in my opinion he'd be a much better choice than DU - what have we to lose by giving it a try? I`d give him from after the Notts game until the end of the season to see what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Similar profile as a certain Jurgen Klopp, when he finished playing for Mainz05 and went onto successfully manage them in 2001. The rest is history. Recently, Klopp has been asked to "go back to school" to renew his coaching badge and described it as "ridiculous". A favourite saying of his is along the lines of "the school of life teaches you far more than any coaching qualification". Clarkey has been there and done it under many managers; in my opinion he'd be a much better choice than DU - what have we to lose by giving it a try? I`d give him from after the Notts game until the end of the season to see what he can do. Who devised these coaching qualifications and what's their managerial record, anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Similar profile as a certain Jurgen Klopp, when he finished playing for Mainz05 and went onto successfully manage them in 2001. The rest is history. Recently, Klopp has been asked to "go back to school" to renew his coaching badge and described it as "ridiculous". A favourite saying of his is along the lines of "the school of life teaches you far more than any coaching qualification". Clarkey has been there and done it under many managers; in my opinion he'd be a much better choice than DU - what have we to lose by giving it a try? I`d give him from after the Notts game until the end of the season to see what he can do. Has a player ever managed a club whilst being contracted to a different one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 minute ago, deyres42 said: Has a player ever managed a club whilst being contracted to a different one? No and thats why its a Twitter fuelled bollocks, similar to how some say 'Bring back Selim, he had a massively better return than Unsworth" Unsworth is better by about 0.00006 percent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Similar profile as a certain Jurgen Klopp, when he finished playing for Mainz05 and went onto successfully manage them in 2001. The rest is history. Recently, Klopp has been asked to "go back to school" to renew his coaching badge and described it as "ridiculous". A favourite saying of his is along the lines of "the school of life teaches you far more than any coaching qualification". Clarkey has been there and done it under many managers; in my opinion he'd be a much better choice than DU - what have we to lose by giving it a try? I`d give him from after the Notts game until the end of the season to see what he can do. He’s shown no inclination of wanting to get involved in coaching or managing, here or anywhere else. He turned down a new contract at Tranmere in the summer because it was a player coach role. You can’t just give him the manager’s job if he doesn’t want it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Steve_R said: He’s shown no inclination of wanting to get involved in coaching or managing, here or anywhere else. He turned down a new contract at Tranmere in the summer because it was a player coach role. You can’t just give him the manager’s job if he doesn’t want it This Everyone saying give it Clarke First - he is still contracted to Walsall Second - he has shown no inclination to be a manager Third - there is absolutey no evidence to suggest he would be decent at it in any event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, Chaddyexile84 said: This Everyone saying give it Clarke First - he is still contracted to Walsall Second - he has shown no inclination to be a manager Third - there is absolutey no evidence to suggest he would be decent at it in any event Thought for minute there you were talking about Paul Scholes-plenty wanted him and that didn't turn out well did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: Thought for minute there you were talking about Paul Scholes-plenty wanted him and that didn't turn out well did it? One of the best midfielders ever. Couldn't manage for shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, mcfluff1985 said: One of the best midfielders ever. Couldn't manage for shit FFS!!!….What do you base that on his 30 odd day fiasco under Mo & Co? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, mcfluff1985 said: One of the best midfielders ever. Couldn't manage for shit Who could, under the previous cun regime? Many tried, many failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 He was a few late goals away from a decent record. Didn't see any of the games though so can't comment on performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 43 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: FFS!!!….What do you base that on his 30 odd day fiasco under Mo & Co? Well if you look at his 2nd and 3rd points it is hard to argue with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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