deyres42 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, JoeP said: The wins are in spite of Unsworth. There's been no change in performance, just a bit more luck. We need to build now for a promotion push next season - where's the progress? We were outplayed for the majority of the game today by bottom-of-the-league-no-league-wins-in-11 Maidstone United. It's been the same in every match. All positive results under Unsworth have lacked any conviction. Them missing a sitter before Reid's wonder-strike saves the game today from another calamity. We can't dominate opposition (like a promotion-chasing team would) because of the way Unsworth sets up. Well the progress has come results wise since the turn of the year with a more settled side. We don't have the quality yet to dominate sides but that's not really surprising as we are only a few months into a new era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Well the progress has come results wise since the turn of the year with a more settled side. We don't have the quality yet to dominate sides but that's not really surprising as we are only a few months into a new era. We should have the quality to dominate bottom of the league Maidstone. The manager has spent £100k on a striker and has been allowed to bring players in. "New era" or not, we should be doing better. The faith in Unsworth remains blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Well that was dreadful. This season will go down in my history of watching Latics, as the most boring ever. The enthusiasm, and life seems to have been sucked out of the fans. The atmosphere in the ground is dead, and all in all it's not a very pleasant experience. And that being after a 2 nil win. I have seen every Saturday home game this season, and I have yet to see us play well. Today was like watching two amateur teams, and was very poor fare. I thought Yardy was very strong, and looks a great prospect. Sutton looks to be improving after his recent bad luck with injuries, and should get better and better. Sheron looks decent for this level, and is our only player looking to get a tackle in. The rest look poor, and we will need a massive influx of new players to have any chance of challenging near the top. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, JoeP said: We should have the quality to dominate bottom of the league Maidstone. The manager has spent £100k on a striker and has been allowed to bring players in. "New era" or not, we should be doing better. The faith in Unsworth remains blind. Just saying we should be doing this or that, presumably based on perceived stature, doesn't make it reality. You could argue every one of the permanent signings has improved the team to some degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, 100milesaway said: Well that was dreadful. This season will go down in my history of watching Latics, as the most boring ever. The enthusiasm, and life seems to have been sucked out of the fans. The atmosphere in the ground is dead, and all in all it's not a very pleasant experience. And that being after a 2 nil win. I have seen every Saturday home game this season, and I have yet to see us play well. Today was like watching two amateur teams, and was very poor fare. I thought Yardy was very strong, and looks a great prospect. Sutton looks to be improving after his recent bad luck with injuries, and should get better and better. Sheron looks decent for this level, and is our only player looking to get a tackle in. The rest look poor, and we will need a massive influx of new players to have any chance of challenging near the top. Thing is, 9 of those 16 in the squad today were his players. 6 started. Any manager should be able to show he can improve what he has before being trusted with more cash to splash. We’ve had a slight upturn when facing the easiest run of fixtures in the clubs entire history. I’m convinced an actual manager gets tons more out of this set of players. Be an expensive experiment to keep churning over players. One that will fail. Poor Frank, having to put up with this and pay millions for the privilege! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 54 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: No need Paddy. Only you need to look silly enough doing that. But I’m crying alright…I’m devastated we are still wasting our lives (and Franks money) with this clown in charge and playing Russian Roulette with this idiot. Happy we’ve pulled 6pts clear of the drop tho. Over the next 7 games, that will get eaten away. Enjoy right now…it’s the pinnacle of yours and David’s season 1 defeat in 8 league games, my friend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: 1 defeat in 8 league games, my friend... The greatest decorating job of Michelangelo proportions… Don’t be going hiding over the next 8 games Edited February 18, 2023 by boundaryblue80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Just saying we should be doing this or that, presumably based on perceived stature, doesn't make it reality. You could argue every one of the permanent signings has improved the team to some degree. It's not based on "perceived stature", it's based on the fact that that our owners have backed the manager and we're supposed to have aspirations of getting out of this division. George Elokobi hasn't had a fraction of the backing - they're probably not even his players out there today - yet they bossed us for large parts of the game on our own patch. We have some decent players - check out Reid's strike today - but Unsworth hasn't shown any indication he knows how to move us forward. And for what it's worth - we are a club that should be looking to get promoted as soon as possible. Nowt wrong with a bit of arrogance. All successful clubs have it. Demanding improvement should be the minimal ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: The greatest decorating job of Michelangelo proportions… Don’t be going hiding over the next 8 games It becomes more than a "papering over the cracks" job when it stretches over 8 games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: It becomes more than a "papering over the cracks" job when it stretches over 8 games... Not when 7 of them have been fluked results against pub teams and allotments. Enjoy the moment. Edited February 18, 2023 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, boundaryblue80 said: Not when 7 of them have been fluked results against pub teams and allotments. Enjoy the moment. Ah, will send an email to the National League asking them to put an asterix next to our results... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Ah, will send an email to the National League asking them to put an asterix next to our results... Well you’ve deleted the Gateshead defeat from your stats coz it doesn’t suit you so go ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 minute ago, boundaryblue80 said: Well you’ve deleted the Gateshead defeat from your stats coz it doesn’t suit you so go ahead I'm dealing in league results and 1 defeat from 8 league games cannot be sniffed at, as confirmed by the owner of the football club after the game today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 30 minutes ago, 100milesaway said: Well that was dreadful. This season will go down in my history of watching Latics, as the most boring ever. The enthusiasm, and life seems to have been sucked out of the fans. The atmosphere in the ground is dead, and all in all it's not a very pleasant experience. There were over 6,000 Latics’ fans there today which is an incredible turnout at this level and even more so given the poor football on show. As others have said, if this continues there will be a further dropping off in enthusiasm and support - put simply, the players are not giving much back to the fans to help generate an atmosphere - it was a boring victory today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, bigfatjoe1 said: Is that one defeat in eight league games? Four wins three draws and one defeat. Should've been five wins, at least. Should not have been beaten by Halifax. Could easily have been five wins and three draws. And yet, it's still unconvincing and dull. However, it is a solid run. And yet it means the manager is safe. Confused! Stop it Benson. Just stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flemboy Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 2 hours ago, boundaryblue80 said: Thing is, 9 of those 16 in the squad today were his players. 6 started. Any manager should be able to show he can improve what he has before being trusted with more cash to splash. We’ve had a slight upturn when facing the easiest run of fixtures in the clubs entire history. I’m convinced an actual manager gets tons more out of this set of players. Be an expensive experiment to keep churning over players. One that will fail. Poor Frank, having to put up with this and pay millions for the privilege! I agree Ross 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) That was absolute wank wasn't it? They're getting results because we have some good players for this level, but there's no game plan or direction there apart from "wing it". We're somehow in decent form but it all feels very short term and fragile, that could so easily have been a draw today. Everything else around the club at the moment is great which is why I'm still going, but on the pitch To try and add some positivity, Reid is great. And Kitching had his best game for a bit. And the kebab from the truck in the RRE was Edited February 19, 2023 by Guy Branston Pickle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKing521 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) Impressed with Maidstone’s media department for a part-time outfit. I can understand the club not going full throttle on the media output due to the current feeling in the stands, but this level of quality is what we should really be aiming for. Especially with the fan base we have. Edited February 19, 2023 by GKing521 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Every single manager in this league would get more out of this squad than Unsworth is getting. Results are short term, performances give a true indication of where a team is at and there is nothing cohesive or progressive about what we’re seeing. Thought it was noticeable when Gardner went down that the players didn’t go near the bench for instruction and had a mini conversion of their own in the middle of the pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, b0ndl1ne said: Every single manager in this league would get more out of this squad than Unsworth is getting. Results are short term, performances give a true indication of where a team is at and there is nothing cohesive or progressive about what we’re seeing. Thought it was noticeable when Gardner went down that the players didn’t go near the bench for instruction and had a mini conversion of their own in the middle of the pitch Not sure that is true, you could dominate every game you play and still lose. Good to see players taking responsibility for what is happening on the pitch, about time they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careca9 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 11 hours ago, JoeP said: The wins are in spite of Unsworth. There's been no change in performance, just a bit more luck. We need to build now for a promotion push next season - where's the progress? We were outplayed for the majority of the game today by bottom-of-the-league-no-league-wins-in-11 Maidstone United. It's been the same in every match. All positive results under Unsworth have lacked any conviction. Them missing a sitter before Reid's wonder-strike saves the game today from another calamity. We can't dominate opposition (like a promotion-chasing team would) because of the way Unsworth sets up. totally agree. I don’t mind him being defensive and sitting back but when we break we have to commit people forward quickly. We don’t even do that. The current tactic isn’t going to get us out of the league, surely he can see that. Have to hope we see a change before end of season or u can’t imagine many signing up to watch that for another season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Careca9 said: totally agree. I don’t mind him being defensive and sitting back but when we break we have to commit people forward quickly. We don’t even do that. The current tactic isn’t going to get us out of the league, surely he can see that. Have to hope we see a change before end of season or u can’t imagine many signing up to watch that for another season He's not trying to get out of the league is he, he's trying to keep us in it which looks increasingly likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, deyres42 said: He's not trying to get out of the league is he, he's trying to keep us in it which looks increasingly likely. Indeed. Probably time for him to give us an insight into what next season's promotion push is going to look like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 38 minutes ago, deyres42 said: He's not trying to get out of the league is he, he's trying to keep us in it which looks increasingly likely. We'll still be here the season after next if he remains incharge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, JoeP said: Indeed. Probably time for him to give us an insight into what next season's promotion push is going to look like... Squad will have to look very different if there is going to be any promotion aspirations so not sure clues are going to be in plentiful supply at present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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