JoeP Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Monty Burns said: yes. but l'm impatient too, l think we all are. it's how we deal with it. not very well l'm going with Yes, I mean booing, in reality won't help the players or management. I can't say I've never booed at the final whistle, although I think often people boo because of the result/performance, rather than picking on anyone individually (booing Nuttall at a friendly in Southport is another level..). I'm not going on Saturday - would I boo if we got turned over by Southend on Saturday, if I was there? I'd probably just think "Fuck this for a game of soldiers" and slope off to the pub, but would I have empathy if someone did who's paid a fair whack to go down with the added incentive that we should be challenging this year and beating a team in turmoil? I think I would.. It's interesting that on the podcast in the past they've talked about the psychology of fans who are negative and boo. I think it works both ways - we're now in a position, probably for the first time since 1991, that we are expected to do something, but as the season start moves closer, there seems to have been a bit of a drop in expectation and the appeal for patience has started before a ball has been kicked (like there's been moaning, to be fair). It's like, after the last 33 years of decline - we're scared of success and being demanding! Edited August 2, 2023 by JoeP 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, JoeP said: Yes, I mean booing, in reality won't help the players or management. I can't say I've never booed at the final whistle, although I think often people boo because of the result/performance, rather than picking on anyone individually (booing Nuttall at a friendly in Southport is another level..). I'm not going on Saturday - would I boo if we got turned over by Southend on Saturday, if I was there? I'd probably just think "Fuck this for a game of soldiers" and slope off to the pub, but I would have empathy for someone who's paid a fair whack to go down with the added incentive that we should be challenging this year and beating a team in turmoil? I think I would.. It's interesting that on the podcast in the past they've talked about the psychology of fans who are negative and boo. I think it works both ways - we're now in a position, probably for the first time since 1991, that we are expected to do something, but as the season start moves closer, there seems to have been a bit of a drop in expectation and the appeal for patience has started before a ball has been kicked (like there's been moaning, to be fair). It's like, after the last 33 years of decline - we're scared of success and being demanding! it feels to me like it used to feel before playing!!! l'm all snappy and nervous. its fuckin wednesday and asif lve even seen this level as a player ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: it feels to me like it used to feel before playing!!! l'm all snappy and nervous. its fuckin wednesday and asif lve even seen this level as a player ffs Who's this Asif lad? Some imaginary interlocutor? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hemel latic said: Who's this Asif lad? Some imaginary interlocutor? mateeeee he was mega spinner at school but he went all extremist around 2003ish after lraq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeP said: Yes, I mean booing, in reality won't help the players or management. I can't say I've never booed at the final whistle, although I think often people boo because of the result/performance, rather than picking on anyone individually (booing Nuttall at a friendly in Southport is another level..). I'm not going on Saturday - would I boo if we got turned over by Southend on Saturday, if I was there? I'd probably just think "Fuck this for a game of soldiers" and slope off to the pub, but would I have empathy for someone who's paid a fair whack to go down with the added incentive that we should be challenging this year and beating a team in turmoil? I think I would.. It's interesting that on the podcast in the past they've talked about the psychology of fans who are negative and boo. I think it works both ways - we're now in a position, probably for the first time since 1991, that we are expected to do something, but as the season start moves closer, there seems to have been a bit of a drop in expectation and the appeal for patience has started before a ball has been kicked (like there's been moaning, to be fair). It's like, after the last 33 years of decline - we're scared of success and being demanding! I'm predicting that, as we did with the 'Keep the Faith', 'Incremental improvements' will be sewn into our shirts from 26/27 onwards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Hemel latic said: Who's this Asif lad? Some imaginary interlocutor? I trained a bloke called Asif. He later became the first person in the country to be jailed for insider dealing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: I trained a bloke called Asif. He later became the first person in the country to be jailed for insider dealing Obviously a quick learner !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Bobledgersheart said: Obviously a quick learner !! Took five of his school/university mates down with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 On 8/1/2023 at 8:56 PM, oafcmetty said: I'd just like to come out of a match thinking, yep, we dominated that and deserved the win. On 8/1/2023 at 9:03 PM, LightDN123 said: Not having a dig at DU before anyone shoots me down. But I just don’t think we will ever feel that under him. We sit back, keep narrow and hope the quality of our players will get us through games, that’s just how it is with DU. Curious if your views have now changed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 51 minutes ago, rudemedic said: Curious if your views have now changed? Typically I couldn’t make Saturday as away. So no unfortunately not I will watch the game back when I can. Absolutely buzzing with the result and hope we continue to play with the intent it sounds like we did on yesterday ! I want Unsworth to prove me wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 On 8/13/2023 at 4:01 PM, rudemedic said: Curious if your views have now changed? Currently in Portugal. Let's see if we can smash Solihull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 On 8/13/2023 at 4:01 PM, rudemedic said: Curious if your views have now changed? Still no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 On 8/13/2023 at 4:01 PM, rudemedic said: Curious if your views have now changed? Come on rudemedic.....surely YOUR VIEW to keep him must now be up for review....??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Londonboy said: Come on rudemedic.....surely YOUR VIEW to keep him must now be up for review....??? I was indifferent on keeping him after Halifax at home last season. I'm still indifferent now. But because I'm willing to give him a bit more time I want to keep him? I wouldn't care if he was sacked tonight, the same applied in early February. I was just pointing out the fallacy of giving a manager a whole pre-season and then sacking him after X games, some of which are probably going to be our toughest games of the season. I stick by my logic that he needs 35 points after 23 games. He could have been 6 out of 6 and still need 35 points after 23 games. If he isn't getting 35 points after 23 games I move away from indifference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, rudemedic said: I stick by my logic that he needs 35 points after 23 games. He could have been 6 out of 6 and still need 35 points after 23 games. If he isn't getting 35 points after 23 games I move away from indifference. 30 from the next 17 then. Can't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: 30 from the next 17 then. Can't see it. Yes it’s not happening is it sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: 30 from the next 17 then. Can't see it. Aye, close to promotion form at nearly two points a game. Not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, rudemedic said: I was indifferent on keeping him after Halifax at home last season. I'm still indifferent now. But because I'm willing to give him a bit more time I want to keep him? I wouldn't care if he was sacked tonight, the same applied in early February. I was just pointing out the fallacy of giving a manager a whole pre-season and then sacking him after X games, some of which are probably going to be our toughest games of the season. I stick by my logic that he needs 35 points after 23 games. He could have been 6 out of 6 and still need 35 points after 23 games. If he isn't getting 35 points after 23 games I move away from indifference. I thought we agreed that 75 pts at least would be needed so 38 after 23 games being more realistic to squeeze into the playoffs? So just the 33pts from 17. Seems a million miles away.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Londonboy said: I thought we agreed that 75 pts at least would be needed so 38 after 23 games being more realistic to squeeze into the playoffs? So just the 33pts from 17. Seems a million miles away.... Yeah but we got 40 points in the second half of last season with an inferior squad. I'm giving him that he'll be able to replicate that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oafc11 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, rudemedic said: Yeah but we got 40 points in the second half of last season with an inferior squad. I'm giving him that he'll be able to replicate that. FFS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, League one forever said: Aye, close to promotion form at nearly two points a game. Not happening. 30 from 17 is 81 points over a season thats only 6 points more than my target of 75. It is still currently achievable. We got 29 points from the last 17 games last season, with an inferior squad. He does need to start replicating that form soon though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, rudemedic said: 30 from 17 is 81 points over a season thats only 6 points more than my target of 75. It is still currently achievable. We got 29 points from the last 17 games last season, with an inferior squad. He does need to start replicating that form soon though. I admire your loyalty.....but he needs to go mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 18 hours ago, rudemedic said: 30 from 17 is 81 points over a season thats only 6 points more than my target of 75. It is still currently achievable. We got 29 points from the last 17 games last season, with an inferior squad. He does need to start replicating that form soon though. To be fair, the only points stat that matters (due to changes in personnel and opposition personnel) is that we’ve got 5 points from 6 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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