leeslover Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Big United also need TV money to pay for the biggest stadium in the league and other overheads like more expensive players than their rivals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Well, yes if that's what Chesterfield want to do - it's got to be a mutual agreement. Can't deny their payday. However there are ways to improve the situation - keep the ticket price to the minimum allowed, help fans from Chesterfield get there. and make sure every effort is made that the fans get the tickets and sponsors. Fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoln Blue Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Again not Latics related but I went to watch Lincoln v Trannies in the replay last night (4th qualifying round). The Trannies were woeful, I almost felt sorry for them they were that bad (they also had their goalkeeper sent off after 30 minutes for deliberate handball outside the box). But then I remembered the last minute penalty they got against us at BP a few years back and thought "stuff 'em". Lincoln won 2:0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 What a load of wank. Grief! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 The FC United Board thought fans would like to share our frustration and bemusement at the request we received on Friday 16 Oct 2015 from the BBC, via the FA, to move the kick off time of our FA Cup game against Sporting Khalsa to enable a “brand new BBC Mobile Match of The Day Live experience”. This latest idea included disruption to the pre-match preparations of club volunteers and the competing teams, interruptions to substitutes warming up and interference with the team managers’ match management. The FC United Board gave a resounding ‘no’ to this request. Match-going supporters should not have to be inconvenienced for the benefit of those who rarely, if at all, attend matches. FC United is not intrinsically opposed to the re-arrangement of a fixture time, provided that it meets with the approval of and benefits the respective clubs and their supporters. In 2007, members of FC United voted in favour of entering the FA Cup and acknowledged the competitions rules and TV contracts. That aside the whole “Mobile Match of The Day Live experience” should have been canned at inception by any BBC Sports manager with an understanding of the game. As a public service broadcaster the BBC should be taking a lead by promoting the game without causing additional disruption to match going supporters instead of trying to ape or outdo some of the worst excesses of their competitors. If BBC viewers would like to understand the fans’ experience at a football game there are numerous real life games at every level throughout the country and the easiest way for TV viewers to access the real fans’ experience is to go along to a match. For a more in depth experience they could volunteer like many non-league fans do week in and week out. The FA, as the governing body of football in this country, appear to be encouraging ways to cash in on the fans’ experience whilst treating the supporters as the least important commodity in the game. We call upon the FA to remember that football is a sporting competition and the associated drama comes from the highs and lows of the game itself. It does not reflect well on the custodians of our game that they would devalue the sporting integrity of their flagship competition by encouraging TV presenters to interfere with those in the dugouts or changing rooms when they are working to produce the best competitive elements of the game. Nor should TV have access to substitutes when warming up, because those players are athletes preparing properly to be able to compete at their best. TV exposure and the revenue it generates are important to football. However, we believe that the balance has swung way too far in favour of the TV companies - and too far away from the match-going, admission paying, regularly attending football supporter. FC United seeks to change the way that football is owned and run, putting supporters at the heart of everything. This includes a better and more balanced relationship with TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 "Presented by Radio 1Extra’s Nick Bright and Amplify Dot" What a load of wank. Is "Amplify Dot" the name of a person? Please tell me it's not.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 It's a no-brainer to take the money you get for a third round tie against premier league also-rans. But if the money isn't that great (doesn't look like it for FCUM) then you can also afford to forgo the "exposure" and look after the ones who go to the match. Not many clubs would make a stand like that. Not many clubs could afford to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsChris Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Is "Amplify Dot" the name of a person? Please tell me it's not.. Only to her mates. She goes by Amplify Dorothy officially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Only to her mates. She goes by Amplify Dorothy officially. :censored:ing hell. "Ashley Charles, also known as Amplify Dot, A.Dot or Dotty, is a rapper from South London, England." I was hoping/assuming it was something technological that someone was paying for while not quite understanding what it was or did - like that Spyro thing we've now got.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsChris Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 :censored:ing hell. "Ashley Charles, also known as Amplify Dot, A.Dot or Dotty, is a rapper from South London, England." I was hoping/assuming it was something technological that someone was paying for while not quite understanding what it was or did - like that Spyro thing we've now got.... All is forgiven, I'd change my name to something less ridiculous if I had two first names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Is "Amplify Dot" the name of a person? Please tell me it's not.. Apparently her real name is Ashley Charles. I'm all for technology and TV involvement in football but that suggestion is taking it way too far. It would actually be a disruption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) difficult decisions have to be made The diplomacy of Cameron! Rejecting an alternate kick-off time would be a good demonstration, but like already said, money is the be all and end all in this game, and that isn't going to change any time soon. The biggest driver of this is the fans. All revere the Germans model but are suckers for Sky! Edited October 28, 2015 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 http://fc-utd.co.uk/m_story.php?story_id=6474 Very respectable by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc-latics Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 http://fc-utd.co.uk/m_story.php?story_id=6474 Very respectable by them. Seems like they have no option but to play the game on the Monday, so it's easy to then say you disagree with it. As much as they might oppose the tv culture, they're not going to turn away £70,000 and national exposure. Respect to them for covering the £1 increase in ticket price from their usual price, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsChris Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I don't like FC United, but I do respect them. Having said that, Chesterfield to Manchester on a Monday night is hardly a Fogg-esque trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) FCUM Statement: Getting to the first round of the FA Cup is a significant achievement for the club and its players. FC United has been informed by the FA that our home FA Cup First Round Proper tie against Chesterfield FC has been selected to be broadcast live television and that it will take place on Monday 9 November 2015 with a kick off time of 7.45pm. Under competition rules the minimum adult ticket price for a first round match is £10. When we were informed of this, the FC United board contacted the FA to inform them of our views, outlining the club’s historical opposition to changing kick off times from their traditional slots as this can be inconvenient to fans and detrimental to the match-day atmosphere. We also referred the FA to resolutions passed by FC United members regarding changing fixture times which instruct our Board to take this inconvenience and the following guiding principles into account when deciding whether to accept an invitation to move a game to be shown on TV: 1. The time of kick off proposed. 2. The travelling times involved for the fans (FC fans for away matches, opposition fans for home matches). 3. The impact of a no decision on the other club. 4. The benefits to our club to be derived from this exposure. 5. The impact of any additional money in helping the club achieve its aims. Furthermore, our recent survey of members gives further guidance to the board if games have to be moved for whatever reason. If games have to be moved then members expressed a clear preference, with Friday evenings, then Sundays being the favoured days with other days receiving very little support. Out of all the options, Mondays are potentially the most punitive for supporters. Monday is a working day as is the following day and Monday night football is a TV invention. While recognising that TV is important to football, the club also has a stated pledge to seek to change football for the benefit of supporters, without whom the game would not exist. Having considered the club’s stated views on this issue as expressed democratically by members, the Board of FC United of Manchester has refused to agree with the move our FA Cup 1st round game against Chesterfield to Monday 9 November 2015. The FA has responded this morning to inform us that they insist on the game being moved according to the FA Cup competition rules and therefore we have no option but to hold the match on the Monday evening at 7.45pm. We are deeply disappointed by the FA’s stance and have made them aware of this. FC United has a proud history of campaigning for change on issues affecting the game and its supporters. The history of that protest has always been about respect for the integrity of the game and not disrupting the match or players. In that spirit, on this issue we believe that we need to make a stand. Protesting at the moving of this match to a Monday is a continuation of the campaign against kick off times and ticket prices supported by fans of clubs in this country and abroad. Most notably FC Bayern Munich fans spent the first five minutes of their recent Champions League game against Arsenal ‘below stairs’ before taking their place in the stands. A similar protest at Broadhurst Park is not practicable on health and safety grounds as there is nowhere for fans to congregate safely although there is still much we can do. FC United recognises that there is an inevitable price to be paid for TV but we believe that the stick has been bent too far and it is right that we take a stand on this issue. FC United’s usual price is £9. If the minimum adult price of £10 is applied, FC United will be issuing a £1 voucher to all adult ticket holders that they can spend on food and drink or merchandise at the ground. This offer will be extended to away supporters. FC United will pick up this cost and this will not affect the division of gate receipts with Chesterfield FC. The match against Chesterfield will be an all-ticket game. Full details will be announced later today on our website. Got to respect that statement. It's the future of the people's game. It's a group of people who are refusing to accept damaging orthodoxies. They're actually thinking about what the game is all about, unlike certain league club owners we can all think of. Edited October 28, 2015 by 24hoursfromtulsehill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Got to respect that statement. It's the future of the people's game. It's a group of people who refusing to accept damaging orthodoxies. They're actually thinking about what the game is all about, unlike certain league club owners we can all think of. That's exactly why they were set up in the first place. Fans are first and foremost and they will do their upmost to preserve that way. No doubt the FA will have their say though !!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I'll be angry if they contrive a state of existence which makes it impossible to loathe them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) I'll be angry if they contrive a state of existence which makes it impossible to loathe them. NEVER!! Whatever happens they are red scum at heart no matter how much they try to kid themselves which gives you plenty of hate to fall back despite any good they do Edited October 28, 2015 by palmer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 http://fc-utd.co.uk/m_story.php?story_id=6474 Very respectable by them. Pile of :censored:e. Protest club clearly run out of things to protest about. I get what they are saying, I really do, but I would be livid if latics said no to an income stream like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Got to respect that statement. It's the future of the people's game. It's a group of people who refusing to accept damaging orthodoxies. They're actually thinking about what the game is all about, unlike certain league club owners we can all think of. Or non league owners like those property owners waiting to gentrify the last bit of Dulwich Little United will get more than 70k worth of media over this, don't worry about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I'll be angry if they contrive a state of existence which makes it impossible to loathe them. I normally disagree with you, so I feel I should say I felt this way a couple of years ago and my position on them has moved even further in their favour, after things such as this. However, due to free tickets via my sons Football and having a freind who plays for them, whenever I attend and hear them singing united songs all game, this redresses the balance somewhat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 If principles meant anything to them they could always pull out of the cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 If principles meant anything to them they could always pull out of the cup. ...to go and play in a strictly unregulated competition in a favela. Or non league owners like those property owners waiting to gentrify the last bit of Dulwich Little United will get more than 70k worth of media over this, don't worry about them How dare you suggest that Dulwich isn't already fully gentrified! But what about FC's stance? They've come a long way since they were formed but are sticking with the principles. What's not to love about that? They're being forced to do something they don't want by the FA at the behest of the BBC (one evil TV company among many), so why aren't you on their side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 They're being forced to do something they don't want by the FA at the behest of the BBC (one evil TV company among many), so why aren't you on their side? Being "forced" to go along with the rules of the competition they agreed to when entering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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