rudemedic Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 also if he has a signed contract then Swindon really don't have a leg to stand onIf he has signed a contract and Swindon don't properly honour it, then they are in breach of contract. It is in their interests for someone to take Rooney on, so they are liable for less compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) Edited July 12, 2013 by PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 oops ...Double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavinodriscoll Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 oops ...Double post your first post is blank lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 your first post is blank lol It was a double post from an edit i was trying to make to my earlier post. It in effect became a triple post when I tried to edit this accidental repost and I ended up with yet another post. And I still don't know how it all happened. My mind must be melting in the heat.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Also hearing the Swindon manager has walked. We'll see if that's confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesidg Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I feel like I don't know Connor Brown anymore. Don't know him at all. Hey bruvWhat u mean innit? Loads of smilies and mentions of Kyle Naughton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoncorneyisgod Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 This IMO is going to be LJ's first big test......unless he has some sort of agreement already with Rooney the fact it has come out into the public domain with quotes attributed to him baffles me. I'm really hoping that he isn't trusting an agents word as surely other clubs within our league and possibly the championship will have been on the phone already! Hopefully Rooney is a man of his word but this might all end in tears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4froale Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) Matt chambers said yesterday 'this will happen' but with the chrons recent record I'm still not convinced Edited July 13, 2013 by 4froale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) If Rooney gets Swindon to honour his contract by paying him off then they will effectively hold his registration for that contract period. Therefore entitled to a fee or to make him play for them next season. Won't be the greatest situation for either party so likelihood he'd be sold on to offset their losses or loaned out. However, if Swindon are effectively ripping up his contract then he's a free agent. We sign him for - as an example - 2k per week. The contract with Swindon was 4k per week. Rooney then can claim loss of earnings over breach of contract and constructive dismissal. He's our player though. Looking at facts to date - Matt Chambers tweets saying the signing "will happen"; the club forced to issue a release saying Rooney is training with us to maintain fitness & WILL play in pre-season games. Finally LJ has openly said how great a player Rooney is and would love to sign him. On the basis of these facts I'm inclined to think its the second situation. We've probably signed him already on a pre-contract to secure ourselves. I cant imagine (then again I can) the club releasing images of Rooney in pre-season training with us and then not just saying he's training with us (they were forced to due to tweets) for fitness but going further by saying he will actually play in our pre-season games. We question the clubs intelligence in these matters but why play a proven striker in games and then if he bags a few, we lose him to other clubs sniffing around? We'd have protected ourselves from this with some form of contract protection. Rooney is simply settling his contract situation with Swindon by reclaiming the difference. My contract law is a little rusty but normally in a contract you would have step-in rights that mean the party who breaches the contract (Swindon) will have to pay the other party (Rooney) loss of earnings due to the breach. To cover Swindon their right would be to cap their exposure as the difference between earnings in new contract versus earnings in breached contract. This typically happens with managers placed on garden leave; Eriksson beng one with England whereby FA had to continue paying him until he found a new employer. Edited July 13, 2013 by Midsblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavinodriscoll Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 From what ive just read, Swindon never signed the contract so from Swindon's point of view he is a free agent bit.ly/10SwdKU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Does anyone have any theories on how the Rooney situation is going to resolve itself in our favour? At present Rooney is obviously trying to get the money Swindon promised him for the next two years. But he still has a signed contract with them hasn't he? They are just refusing to pay him. Surely they aren't going to pay him in full and cancel his contract at the same time. How do we end up with a situation where he both gets paid and the contract gets cancelled? Is he looking for a partial pay off? According to the BBC story Rooney has agreed a two year deal. Doesn't say he's signed. Now as I understand it a verbal agreement is only binding if it can be proved in court. I guess the only way to do that is by having an independent witness who has no connection or benefit from either party. Or in this case something may have been written down and read by both Rooney and his agent, one of them may even have a copy, which would strengthen his case. But that agreement was with the previous owners and may still be binding. Personally I think Rooney is on dodgy ground unless he has a copy of the agreement. If he wins then he is a Swindon player, but I doubt he will play for them. In that case they could demand a fee, or send him out on loan to the highest bidder If he loses then he is a free agent able to sign where he likes, as we have looked after him it puts us in a strong position, but will he be willing to sign for longer than one year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 From what ive just read, Swindon never signed the contract so from Swindon's point of view he is a free agent bit.ly/10SwdKU Sounds odd. What did he sign then? A contract that he'd written himself? Whilst the deal hadn't been finalised, Swindon will probably struggle to come out of this one without an undisclosed settlement figure to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavinodriscoll Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Sounds odd. What did he sign then? A contract that he'd written himself? Whilst the deal hadn't been finalised, Swindon will probably struggle to come out of this one without an undisclosed settlement figure to pay. from the way i understand it both sides sign the contract that swindon draw up but swindon havent signed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoncorneyisgod Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Player share have said on twitter that they have helped sign a new player....Rooney perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Confirmed that its not rooney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross2509 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Confirmed that its not rooney. Confirmed that we haven't signed Rooney or confirmed that it isn't PlayerShare that has helped signed him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Confirmed that we haven't signed Rooney or confirmed that it isn't PlayerShare that has helped signed him? Confirmation that this particular signing isn't Rooney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross2509 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Oh okay. Is everyone still confident that we will be signing Rooney? After what I've seen recently I'm not entirely sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticdickovarmy Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Who controls the playershare account on twitter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 From another angle; who provides the contract to be signed, player, club or League? Is it really conceivable that Rooney is claiming breach of contract on a document that has only one signature? It appears that all we know is there is a contractual dispute between Rooney and Swindon. We have to assume that Rooney has told Latics exactly what that dispute is and Latics believe that they have a very good chance of getting their man. They will also except there is a risk of training him and playing him and then not getting him, for whatever reason, not least he may well just bugger off somewhere else. Or we have got him to sign some sort of contract that stipulates if he doesn't sign/play for Swindon he will for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Also hearing the Swindon manager has walked. We'll see if that's confirmed. Confirmed. Mutual consent. Swindon tried to talk him out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Rooney is not the player playershare have helped. That should be announced early in the week. To answer your question the committee control the finances. LJ comes to us and requests our help and indicates who he's bringing in and how much he wants. If financially viable it comes to the committee who then vote in favour or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Rooney is not the player playershare have helped. That should be announced early in the week. To answer your question the committee control the finances. LJ comes to us and requests our help and indicates who he's bringing in and how much he wants. If financially viable it comes to the committee who then vote in favour or not. I second that. Rooney is not the player that playershare have been asked to help out with. Tba next week folks on the player In the meantime, thanks or all the financial support all you guys have offered, it has helped the club to bring in the likes of evina and kuqi in previous seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) Rooney knocked a goal in during today's 11-a-side training game to the chant of 'Rooney, Rooney' from the other players. A nice simple chant that I wouldn't mind getting the chance to sing myself. Who's the tanned lad with the Andy Carroll pony tail? Edited July 13, 2013 by JohnnyPimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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