palmer1 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Jamie Carragher made a career for himself and wasn't lightning. There are too many players in today's game that are all pace and no brains and if took their pace away they would be fooked! A good football brain can take you a long way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I might be way off, but I think john1234 is Tarkowski Snr... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 The one thing a footballer-especially a defender needs in this modern game is pace and I'm afraid that Tarky ain,t got it and its something you cannot achieve thru training. You either have or you don,t. In the older days footballers who could "read" a game got away with it-John Hurst was a great example, more recently Simon Charlton. If we can get £500,000 plus for him snatch their arm off at the elbow. Must not bite on the can't improve speed with training.....i'll be here all night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Must not bite on the can't improve speed with training.....i'll be here all night But he has improved his speed from last season we agree on that BUT if you ain't quick to start with you are never going to be quick-go on BITE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiecat Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Tarky is the wrong build to be fast, he is a big strong lad. Look at the two quickest centre backs we have had at the club, Paul Warhurst and Earl Barrett, they both had the physique of a racing snake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) The one thing a footballer-especially a defender needs in this modern game is pace and I'm afraid that Tarky ain,t got it and its something you cannot achieve thru training. You either have or you don,t. In the older days footballers who could "read" a game got away with it-John Hurst was a great example, more recently Simon Charlton. If we can get £500,000 plus for him snatch their arm off at the elbow. I don't thing great pace is more essential in today game than it was in the past, Rio Ferdinand even now can handle most Premiership strikers on the ground. The 40 year old Goodison led JCH down blind alleys yesterday. Edited September 1, 2013 by BP1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 pace isn't essential at all, it's an added bonus - in my opinion maguire from sheff united is the best centre half in the league... he's also most probably the slowest! but still very very talented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Rio Ferdinand is now 34 yrs old and in his prime was as quick as any forward, if anybody has 'experience' then he has it in spades-Goodison is now as you say 40yrs old and surely qualifies as 'experienced' hardly fair to compare a 20yr old lad with these. Maguire never seen him although he did score against Latics last season-played for U21's so must have something. You cannot be serious when you say pace is no more essential today than it was in the past-the game today is soooo much quicker than in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Rio Ferdinand is now 34 yrs old and in his prime was as quick as any forward, if anybody has 'experience' then he has it in spades-Goodison is now as you say 40yrs old and surely qualifies as 'experienced' hardly fair to compare a 20yr old lad with these. Maguire never seen him although he did score against Latics last season-played for U21's so must have something. You cannot be serious when you say pace is no more essential today than it was in the past-the game today is soooo much quicker than in the past. "Slow" centre half's are also so much quicker than in the past. It's all relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) Rio Ferdinand is now 34 yrs old and in his prime was as quick as any forward, if anybody has 'experience' then he has it in spades-Goodison is now as you say 40yrs old and surely qualifies as 'experienced' hardly fair to compare a 20yr old lad with these. Maguire never seen him although he did score against Latics last season-played for U21's so must have something. You cannot be serious when you say pace is no more essential today than it was in the past-the game today is soooo much quicker than in the past. I assume you never saw David Shaw play for the Latics in the 1960/70s, the fastest striker Iv'e ever seen at any level, there were many other speed merchants too back then. Edited September 1, 2013 by BP1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1234 Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 You're new here and, therefore, don't realise how cruel this is to me if you've made it up.I hope your info is legit.... I have no reason to wind anyone up. I will keep you informed if I hear any news. A Tarky fan?No! But do know of him through junior football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Break The Silence Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Sean Gregan wasn't quick but he was, quite literally, a one man team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I saw David Shaw many times in those years, I was at Liverpool when he scored right in front of me-yes he was fast but in his time-against modern footballers he would probably be quick but nothing special. How do you compare the pace of somebody 30 years ago with somebody now? You really think David Shaw was quicker than Andrei Kanchelskis who ripped us apart for instance or Theo Walcott now? Now if you want to talk about those golden years then there was Jim Fryatt-still best header of a ball I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Break The Silence Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 I saw David Shaw many times in those years, I was at Liverpool when he scored right in front of me-yes he was fast but in his time-against modern footballers he would probably be quick but nothing special. How do you compare the pace of somebody 30 years ago with somebody now? You really think David Shaw was quicker than Andrei Kanchelskis who ripped us apart for instance or Theo Walcott now? Now if you want to talk about those golden years then there was Jim Fryatt-still best header of a ball I have ever seen. Andrei Kanchelskis was indeed rapido... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Andrei Kanchelskis was indeed rapido... For a long while, Andrei Kanchelskis was THE best player I'd ever seen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Break The Silence Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 For a long while, Andrei Kanchelskis was THE best player I'd ever seen... Agreed. Him and Georgi Kinkladze from Man City were world beaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavinodriscoll Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 according to twatter he's gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 The Hughes penalty aside....? That was never a pen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Someone on the Oldham facebook page status has said that this is Tarky's last game. Apparently, he's off to 'Udders and being loaned back to us for the rest of the season. So it wouldn't be his last game then surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Matt Chambers @Matt_Chambers_1m No Tarky at Huddersfield then. Phew. #oafc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyres_28 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Is this confirmed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 My heart says its not true, we don't need to sell do we? He's broke into the first team, getting exposure (how rude), let him be. But if he wants to go?....noooooooooooooo not to Pube head mark robins. Nightmare, jog on udders. Close the damn transfer window...grrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross2509 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Chief Executive at Huddersfield saying no more new faces being brought into the club tonight, brilliant news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Chief Executive at Huddersfield saying no more new faces being brought into the club tonight, brilliant news! Nigel Clibbens @NClibbens33m For info #htafc won't be doing any transfer deals b4 deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Get. The. Feck. In. Really interested to see how the Tarky & Kusunga partnership works out, with Matteo and Grounds doing the FB roles. On paper, a big, strong, powerful back 4 with all of them being very comfortable on the ball (granted basing that in videos of Genseric) Hope it works out on the pitch. Back OT, really glad Tarky stays (for now I guess) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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