oafc0000 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 But he can be a footballer... Just like that window cleaner he needs to just find enough people who don't know what he has done... If that windower cleaners customers finds out what he has done what do you think happens? Good luck Mr Rapist Funny enough a poster called Postman Matt just down arrowed this post... I doubt the Roymail have rapist postman on the books... Stand to be corrected... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Funny enough a poster called Postman Matt just down arrowed this post... I doubt the Roymail have rapist postman on the books... Stand to be corrected... I doubt Postman Matt is an actual Postman, he can #getanywherein10minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) That's only for certain jobs tho is it not? Examples... Meter readers... Supermarket home delivery drivers... Would it be discrimination for the those companies to not employee rapists ? Ofcourse not.... Edited January 9, 2015 by oafc0000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I doubt Postman Matt is an actual Postman, he can #getanywherein10minutes Yeah I know... It was just the name that gave up another example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysablue Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Well Oldham were mentioned once, in passing, on the radio on my way to work. Cheers Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Are the council providing funding as a weekly wage or summat? No wonder the thing is taking so long to build... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Funny enough a poster called Postman Matt just down arrowed this post... I doubt the Roymail have rapist postman on the books... Stand to be corrected... maybe not but he could be a taxi driver which is even more frightening !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) After looking further discrimination in the work place can is only against the law if you are discriminated against for any of the protected characteristics. Convictions isn't (as yet) a protected characteristic. Doesn't mean discrimination of any sort for any reason is morally acceptable though Nb not many people come on here and shoot down there own arguement Employers are not allowed to turn a person down for a job if they have a 'spent' conviction. To add, the conviction only becomes spent after a further rahabilitation period after the end of the actual sentence. For custodial sentences of 6-30 months the rehab period is 4 years. Therefore he can be turned down. Edit - Ched was jailed for 5 years which means his conviction can never actually be 'spent' (if i've read it right). https://www.gov.uk/exoffenders-and-employment Edited January 9, 2015 by jimsleftfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticio Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Davebuckley06 makes a good point when he states "Your (and the rest of the anti evans brigades) stance that the majority were against him signing for us is bewildering also. What evidence do you have to suggest that your with the majority? A vote on owtb's? The same vote that 200 or so people voted in out of well over 2000 members? That's not a majority. The anti evans brigade were louder, more forceful and used majorly under hand tactics . . . This does not make them a majority." I, like many others, canvassed the views of my colleagues on this issue. The vast majority believed Evans should be allowed to play. Then again - we are all solicitors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 George Osborne was on the radio this morning, he said that everyone involved (sheff utd, us, the PFA) had acted too hastily. He thinks that footballer's are role models, and as such Evans should earn his way back into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I think there is a difference between believing Evans should be allowed to play, and wanting him to play for my club. I'm split on the first issue, strongly against on the second. As I think O4U said earlier in the thread, it may make me a NIMBY...I'm fine with that on this occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Davebuckley06 makes a good point when he states "Your (and the rest of the anti evans brigades) stance that the majority were against him signing for us is bewildering also. What evidence do you have to suggest that your with the majority? A vote on owtb's? The same vote that 200 or so people voted in out of well over 2000 members? That's not a majority. The anti evans brigade were louder, more forceful and used majorly under hand tactics . . . This does not make them a majority." I, like many others, canvassed the views of my colleagues on this issue. The vast majority believed Evans should be allowed to play. Then again - we are all solicitors! Maybe Dave has got a point, but equally unless he's done the numbers, there's no particular way Dave can prove that he is in the majority. If the 200 people on here polled representative of the fan base, probably not, but neither is a straw poll amongst collegues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I think there is a difference between believing Evans should be allowed to play, and wanting him to play for my club. I'm split on the first issue, strongly against on the second. As I think O4U said earlier in the thread, it may make me a NIMBY...I'm fine with that on this occasion. This 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 George Osborne was on the radio this morning, he said that everyone involved (sheff utd, us, the PFA) had acted too hastily. He thinks that footballer's are role models, and as such Evans should earn his way back into the game. Even as a fully paid up member of the anti-Ched brigade, I find these arguments stupid. How does he 'earn his way back into the game'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Even as a fully paid up member of the anti-Ched brigade, I find these arguments stupid. How does he 'earn his way back into the game'? Show remorse and repentant for his crimes... OR Clear his name I don't see any other routes back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Boom. Question time. I predicted that earlier, if the Admin could be bothered to show it? LOL Done - don't act like a prat, don't have to wait - simple init? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 so is every manager at their press conference this morning going to be asked their views? God help us http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30742947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottantuno Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Steve Bruce now weighing in with his two penneth worth saying Evans should be allowed to play, and his conviction looks dubious. Is the weight of public opinion slowly turning in his favour? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30742947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Steve Bruce now weighing in with his two penneth worth saying Evans should be allowed to play, and his conviction looks dubious. Is the weight of public opinion slowly turning in his favour? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30742947 The worlds gone :censored:ing mad... It an issue for the courts not Football.... Imagine just for moment... The two times he has been found guilty now and the fact there is a victim... So distasteful.... Edited January 9, 2015 by oafc0000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Unbelievable. Convicted by a jury who heard all the evidence. Steve Bruce knows better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) When you look at the evidence, it is there for appeal Its been appealed you massive idiot Bruce.... I guess he spent five mins reading Cheds website... Totally clued up he is... Edited January 9, 2015 by oafc0000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wozzer Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) The worlds gone :censored:ing mad... It an issue for the courts not Football.... Imagine just for moment... The two times he has been found guilty now and the fact there is a victim... So distasteful.... You're really not getting this are you? He has not been found guilty twice. It was an issue for the courts. They sentenced him. He has served the custodial element of his sentence. Subject to certain restrictions he is perfectly entitled to seek work. Football is his profession. it is not a profession that constitutes regulated activity. He can therefore play professional football. Edited January 9, 2015 by Wozzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danoafc Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Its been appealed you massive idiot Bruce.... I guess he spent five mins reading Cheds website... Totally clued up he is... My understanding it that Evans was refused leave to appeal his conviction by a Court of Appeal judge in 2012........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) You're really not getting this are you? He has not been He has not been what ? He was found guilty.... He failed to appeal it... His last hope is a case review that over turns 2% of the small number of cases it sees.... So what am I not getting ? Edited January 9, 2015 by oafc0000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 My understanding it that Evans was refused leave to appeal his conviction by a Court of Appeal judge in 2012........ and why was that ? He had no new evidence ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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