leeslover Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Err..being played out of position in the majority of games is the main reason. Perhaps the reason he's scored what's proved to be the winner in lots of games is down to the desire and will to win he has compared to his teammates. Let's see how many he gets for Blackpool if they play him up front. But if he'd scored in games that he didn't do then a lot of them would have been winners or got a draw. What point are you trying to educate me on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Kingsley Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 But if he'd scored in games that he didn't do then a lot of them would have been winners or got a draw. What point are you trying to educate me on? Cos he was played out of position. I thought I mentioned that in my earlier post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Cos he was played out of position. I thought I mentioned that in my earlier post. He's been consistently played out of position though. That is no doubt a factor in his tally but nothing to do with his magical winner scoring technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 It's impossible to judge how many Philly would have scored if he'd played up front or how many we would have won. But he did score 3 important goals in games we won. These rare victories were the result of team performance just as much as who scored. We can however now follow Philly's record at Blackpool: where he plays, how many he scores and how many Blackpool win. We can then compare with how we do without him. Should be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Not my idea of fun. Blackpool making progress up the league whilst we sink to the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 It's impossible to judge how many Philly would have scored if he'd played up front or how many we would have won. But he did score 3 important goals in games we won. These rare victories were the result of team performance just as much as who scored. We can however now follow Philly's record at Blackpool: where he plays, how many he scores and how many Blackpool win. We can then compare with how we do without him. Should be fun. He also scored the last minute equaliser at Coventry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 He also scored the last minute equaliser at Coventry. That was another goalkeeping masterpiece, so doesn't count as a real goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 That one line speaks volumes about your understanding of the game. If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around, does it make a sound!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 That was another goalkeeping masterpiece, so doesn't count as a real goal. Also, goals only count if they're winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Also, goals only count if they're winners. As long as they're don't take a deflection and are not penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Imagine how many he could have scored if he was miles better at football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Not my idea of fun. Blackpool making progress up the league whilst we sink to the bottom. You've now turned it into a forecast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Also, goals only count if they're winners. Or no attacking team play is involved getting the ball to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Latics stats to date: P 23, W 3, Goals for 25, Against 36, Winning goals from Philly 3. Position in league 22nd, Points 21. Blackpool stats: Played 24, W 7, Goals for 21, Against 33, Position in league 21st, Points 25. I'm not making a forecast but stating that Philly won't score 75% of Blackpool's winners and we will win more than 1 match in the remainder of the season without him. Edited January 8, 2016 by mikeroyboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Latics stats to date: P 23, W 4 , Goals for 25, Against 36, Winning goals from Philly 3. Position in league 22nd, Points 21. Blackpool stats: Played 4, W 7, Goals for 21, Against 33, Position in league 21st, Points 25. I'm not making a forecast but stating that Philly won't score 75% of Blackpool's winners and we will win more than 1 match in the remainder of the season without him. We've won 3. Unless you're counting the Cup game we won...when Philly got the winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 We've won 3. Unless you're counting the Cup game we won...when Philly got the winner. Thanks for that. That's what I've done but didn't intend to. It only strengthens the fact that it's a fluke stat based on league games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Thanks for that. That's what I've done but didn't intend to. It only strengthens the fact that it's a fluke stat based on league games. 15 games where anyone could have scored the winner if Philli hadn't been here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Not my idea of fun. Blackpool making progress up the league whilst we sink to the bottom. It's Danny Philliskirk, not Adam Armstrong or Billy Sharp. If he manages to hit double figures for the season it's his best season by far. He's got zero pedigree as a consistent goalscorer. And if Blackpool are relying him on to be one you'll probably find they they'll be in as much trouble as us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 It's Danny Philliskirk, not Adam Armstrong or Billy Sharp. If he manages to hit double figures for the season it's his best season by far. He's got zero pedigree as a consistent goalscorer. And if Blackpool are relying him on to be one you'll probably find they they'll be in as much trouble as us. Blackpool have signed our top goalscorer this season (whatever his historical record might be) and you seek to minimise the effect that this might have on us this season. OK he is not Messi and never will be but they are our Relegation rivals, the lad started at Latics, his father coaches at Latics and whatever one may think of his abilities he is without doubt a decent honest pro who plays until the 90th minute, selected consistently by manager after manager. His goals, whether one seeks to minimise their importance this season, have gained us a lot of our points this season. You may not rate him as a player, whether it be in midfield or in attack, but he has signed for a :censored:e club with questionable owners and a toxic atmosphere. If you are happy watching players such as Poleon, Winchester or Croft in his place then so be it. Our club is being run into the ground and this 'fire sale' plus probably others to follow very quickly is in my opinion merely the prelude to Administration. If you cannot see that our season is being thrown away, basically to cover for the owners inability to properly manage a building project then thats fine! To keep reiterating that you think he is of limited ability is, just like others trying to argue that his goals 'earning' us points this season is questionable, irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. At 5 pm tomorrow we will be looking back on another defeat with fans like you saying 'DP wasnt that good you know' whilst our club dies a slow death. For David Dunn to keep us up this season will be an abolute miracle. If you look forward to 20 years in League 2 you might be a tad lonely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 There is a chance we could be a better team without Philly, we know you rate him but whats to say a Winchester/Poleon or anyone for that matter wouldn't have the same goals return with the same amount of game time? Accomodating him in place of players better than him in those positioms has been a problem this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsmarra Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Blackpool have signed our top goalscorer this season (whatever his historical record might be) and you seek to minimise the effect that this might have on us this season. OK he is not Messi and never will be but they are our Relegation rivals, the lad started at Latics, his father coaches at Latics and whatever one may think of his abilities he is without doubt a decent honest pro who plays until the 90th minute, selected consistently by manager after manager. His goals, whether one seeks to minimise their importance this season, have gained us a lot of our points this season. You may not rate him as a player, whether it be in midfield or in attack, but he has signed for a :censored:e club with questionable owners and a toxic atmosphere. If you are happy watching players such as Poleon, Winchester or Croft in his place then so be it. Our club is being run into the ground and this 'fire sale' plus probably others to follow very quickly is in my opinion merely the prelude to Administration. If you cannot see that our season is being thrown away, basically to cover for the owners inability to properly manage a building project then thats fine! To keep reiterating that you think he is of limited ability is, just like others trying to argue that his goals 'earning' us points this season is questionable, irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. At 5 pm tomorrow we will be looking back on another defeat with fans like you saying 'DP wasnt that good you know' whilst our club dies a slow death. For David Dunn to keep us up this season will be an abolute miracle. If you look forward to 20 years in League 2 you might be a tad lonely! +1The club has been in administration since Blitz left. Corney has been the Administrator,with the absence of outside investment it has been a long lingering process which legally from a cash flow and solvency position is getting too hot to handl,hence the fire sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozman Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 +1 The club has been in administration since Blitz left. Corney has been the Administrator,with the absence of outside investment it has been a long lingering process which legally from a cash flow and solvency position is getting too hot to handl,hence the fire sale That's a really good analogy to describe the post Blitz years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 There is a chance we could be a better team without Philly, we know you rate him but whats to say a Winchester/Poleon or anyone for that matter wouldn't have the same goals return with the same amount of game time? Accomodating him in place of players better than him in those positioms has been a problem this season.I agree with this. Whether or not he would have been the answer as a forward is an open question but he is an utterly average midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I agree with this. Whether or not he would have been the answer as a forward is an open question but he is an utterly average midfielder. An utterly average midfielder who is better than Winchester, Croft and Poleon as well as 12 or 13 others in our squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluear Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 An utterly average midfielder who is better than Winchester, Croft and Poleon as well as 12 or 13 others in our squad. Name 12 other players he is better than. Yes his performances have improved and yes he has scored some important goals but we may have scored more without him. Lightweight and always gets knocked off the ball. Saw him put a big tackle in against Doncaster for first time ever other week and that's because he'd just :censored: out of one and crowd wasn't happy. Always looking to go sideways or backwards. Never has had the ability to beat a man with skill or pace. Not that arsed he's gone. I think we can do better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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