ddot_m Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Thats how Banide has used all our strikers so far. Yet again, why single him out? Azankpo seems to have had more time on the pitch than any of them and still hasn’t scored yet but in true Latics style most really like him because he runs around a lot. I don’t think Azankpo has had much help from the team, his goal against Liverpool was a through ball to feet, finished very well. Poor chap is chasing ghosts for now. And yes, effort is endearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, ddot_m said: I don’t think Azankpo has had much help from the team, his goal against Liverpool was a through ball to feet, finished very well. Poor chap is chasing ghosts for now. And yes, effort is endearing. Chris Wilder disagrees. Its always bugged me that that so many of our fans value effort over quality. Being able to placate you all with fodder that put 100% (of shit) in week in week out probably saved Corney a fortune and us several good seasons over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddot_m Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Chris Wilder disagrees. Its always bugged me that that so many of our fans value effort over quality. Being able to placate you all with fodder that put 100% (of shit) in week in week out probably saved Corney a fortune and us several good seasons over the years. It’s a good job that our placated fans have so much “quality” to cheer then! Maouche has plenty of quality, but doesn’t put in enough effort. Effort in our our team is not a given from all of the players and we can all agree that we need more quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Chris Wilder disagrees. Its always bugged me that that so many of our fans value effort over quality. Being able to placate you all with fodder that put 100% (of shit) in week in week out probably saved Corney a fortune and us several good seasons over the years. 4 minutes ago, ddot_m said: It’s a good job that our placated fans have so much “quality” to cheer then! Maouche has plenty of quality, but doesn’t put in enough effort. Effort in our our team is not a given from all of the players and we can all agree that we need more quality. Paul Warne syndrome innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, ddot_m said: It’s a good job that our placated fans have so much “quality” to cheer then! Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddot_m Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Eh? I am agreeing with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: Thats how Banide has used all our strikers so far. Yet again, why single him out? Azankpo seems to have had more time on the pitch than any of them and still hasn’t scored yet but in true Latics style most really like him because he runs around a lot. I think you've missed my point, Harry. In the time Vera has had previously on the pitch, he has shown almost nothing, but got his chance yesterday. What I am saying is that he now has to prove that he's worth a starting place ahead of the others, and then maintain it. Azankpo and Wilson have had their chances and done very little, although the service to them has been poor. Give Vera the proper service and give him his chance of he warrants it. Nothing to do with running around a lot, although I'd always want to see pace up front provided it has an end product. As I said, it's down to him to prove himself ahead of the others. But I think one problem is that he isn't mobile or pacey enough to be up front on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, Bristolatic said: I think you've missed my point, Harry. In the time Vera has had previously on the pitch, he has shown almost nothing, but got his chance yesterday. What I am saying is that he now has to prove that he's worth a starting place ahead of the others, and then maintain it. Azankpo and Wilson have had their chances and done very little, although the service to them has been poor. Give Vera the proper service and give him his chance of he warrants it. Nothing to do with running around a lot, although I'd always want to see pace up front provided it has an end product. As I said, it's down to him to prove himself ahead of the others. But I think one problem is that he isn't mobile or pacey enough to be up front on his own. Wilson has had his chances?! What by being played on the wing? Both him and desire need a striker to play off not playing up top on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 hours ago, adamoafc said: Wilson has had his chances?! What by being played on the wing? Both him and desire need a striker to play off not playing up top on their own. We need a better striker than any of those we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 hours ago, ddot_m said: Maouche has plenty of quality, but doesn’t put in enough effort. He did yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 On 8/12/2019 at 6:57 AM, the_mighty_bosh said: He'll score again. Don't know where, don't know when. I KNEW he'd score again, some sunny day (August 24th)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 23 hours ago, ddot_m said: It’s a good job that our placated fans have so much “quality” to cheer then! Maouche has the occasional moment of quality, does put in enough effort, but is usually rubbish and a bit of a fanny. Effort in our our team is not a given from all of the players and we can all agree that we need more quality. FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Have to give him credit for being in the right place and time to score, the others strikers haven't been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankies6 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 i wonder if we would all be complaining if we was in the top ten ? probably...i just hope this goal for vera sparks abit of confidence in him .Right place at right time and thats all you can ask for from a forward... looking forward to home game next week one we can certainly win, Vera will probably go to pieces next week due to playing at boundary park, but he wouldnt be the first , had many boo boy forwards wearing the oldham Jersey.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Frankies6 said: i wonder if we would all be complaining if we was in the top ten ? probably...i just hope this goal for vera sparks abit of confidence in him .Right place at right time and thats all you can ask for from a forward... looking forward to home game next week one we can certainly win, Vera will probably go to pieces next week due to playing at boundary park, but he wouldnt be the first , had many boo boy forwards wearing the oldham Jersey.. His problem is he has been playing too deep, needs to be in and around the penalty area with attacking central midfielders closely supporting, not stood on the half way line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Frankies6 said: i wonder if we would all be complaining if we was in the top ten ? probably...i just hope this goal for vera sparks abit of confidence in him .Right place at right time and thats all you can ask for from a forward... looking forward to home game next week one we can certainly win, Vera will probably go to pieces next week due to playing at boundary park, but he wouldnt be the first , had many boo boy forwards wearing the oldham Jersey.. Firstly, we are 3rd from bottom with 1 win, and secondly we haven't at any point looked like a top ten team. Personally hope Vera doesn't start at home on his own up top or he will get killed. Doesn't do enough running the line, and we would end up very defensive at home as we would struggle to get high up the pitch. Needs another to keep the defensive pressed back. Lets not let 1 goal make us assume he is suddenly a world beater. He has been largely shit up to yet and will probably remain so, whilst still chipping in the odd goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/25/2019 at 11:55 AM, HarryBosch said: Thats how Banide has used all our strikers so far. Yet again, why single him out? Azankpo seems to have had more time on the pitch than any of them and still hasn’t scored yet but in true Latics style most really like him because he runs around a lot. You forgot to log back in as Shucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Frankies6 said: Right place at right time and thats all you can ask for from a forward You must realise that's utter nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankies6 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: You must realise that's utter nonsense your a right negative bunch on here .Id hate to see what reaction we would get if we got ourselves into playoff spots.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlieb365 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 What's lang doing nowadays? A loan move for him would sort us out up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/12/2019 at 12:31 PM, unsworthlatic said: Maouche – Embarrassment! Struts around the pitch as if he owns the place. Sadly, his mate does! Can be a decent footballer but ego driven and “nobody is better than me” attitude when everybody else clearly is creates an issue. Takes all set pieces, most of which are crap and offers very little in a midfield two. How this guy is captain is beyond me. Once again, we all know why he is. 3/10 So, enlighten me; given that we all knew why Maouche is captain, what actually changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, TheBigDog said: So, enlighten me; given that we all knew why Maouche is captain, what actually changed? AL used disappearing ink on MM contract. It wasn’t the instant stuff tho it was the slowly slowly stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Have people not noticed that absolute calamity the keeper had for Vera’s goal?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 31 minutes ago, b0ndl1ne said: Have people not noticed that absolute calamity the keeper had for Vera’s goal?? Well he is a big presence, probably the best tactic for him to stand in front of keepers for set plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 hours ago, TheBigDog said: So, enlighten me; given that we all knew why Maouche is captain, what actually changed? Maybe AL and ML thought shit were are gonna get relegated here if we persist with this no mark, maybe we should try handing it to a leader of men with a career and reputation that's unquestionable? Ground breaking I know for a couple of stubborn fools but they could hardly carry on cutting their nose of to spite their face given the results we mustered under MM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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