Monty Burns Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 3 hours ago, bluehobbit said: Good point. Be interesting to see if that's been assessed in anyway. Probably a hard thing to gauge. impossible to gauge l'd say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Chaddyexile84 said: Blows my mind anyone sticks up for the government in any capacity History is littered with examples of the common folk uprising and saying "enough" We just bend over to be violated then sing for royalty whilst it happens Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Should the club's give it a 4 week trial period to suck it and see if the savings outweigh losses?. Personally I like the 3pm kick off's, however if the club's can save money and as a by product give less to the greedy energy companies, I'll take 1pm kick off's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 What time would be too dark to play without floodlights on a Saturday in the Winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Roger Ritchie said: What time would be too dark to play without floodlights on a Saturday in the Winter? I would say 1.30pm at the very latest, possibly 1.00pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 I think it’s an absolute no brainer, not only does it save the club money- but how many times have we sat in the dark at BP in the winter absolutely freezing. There’s a better chance of just being really cold at lunch time Instead of getting frostbite at tea time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, League one forever said: I think it’s an absolute no brainer, not only does it save the club money- but how many times have we sat in the dark at BP in the winter absolutely freezing. There’s a better chance of just being really cold at lunch time Instead of getting frostbite at tea time. It’s been mentioned by others prior to me saying it, so i’m not saying anything new here, but it certainly isn’t a no brainer. There’s clearly no way of knowing for sure until it’s tested but crowds would drop slightly in my opinion, driven by the away fans having less time to get up here etc, and maybe even some home fans not being able to get here earlier. Not sure how much it costs to operate floodlights at all, so no idea what to compare it too, but say 50-100 fans can’t come thats £1000-£2000 thereabouts, would floodlights cost more than that? I’d certainly do less away games at 1pm, but it wouldn’t impact my home attendance. I personally hope we don’t change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, daniel said: It’s been mentioned by others prior to me saying it, so i’m not saying anything new here, but it certainly isn’t a no brainer. There’s clearly no way of knowing for sure until it’s tested but crowds would drop slightly in my opinion, driven by the away fans having less time to get up here etc, and maybe even some home fans not being able to get here earlier. Not sure how much it costs to operate floodlights at all, so no idea what to compare it too, but say 50-100 fans can’t come thats £1000-£2000 thereabouts, would floodlights cost more than that? I’d certainly do less away games at 1pm, but it wouldn’t impact my home attendance. I personally hope we don’t change it. Totally disagree. From the fan perspective- If you’re going away, your going away. Therefore getting a train at say 8 instead of 10 is no hardship, and you still get plenty of beer time afterwards. From a club perspective- the away attendance in our league is so poor for the vast of majority of games that the fall income is negligible to the home side. And even for big away days, do you honestly think fans won’t go because they need to get up earlier?? People will just adapt- to what is a very sensible and cost saving idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 My worry would be that it would become a permanent thing so for that and general faff reasons it is not something I would like to see implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 31 minutes ago, deyres42 said: My worry would be that it would become a permanent thing so for that and general faff reasons it is not something I would like to see implemented. If it saves clubs money, I welcome faff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 43 minutes ago, disjointed said: If it saves clubs money, I welcome faff. Early kick offs are shite though, crowd still half asleep from night before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just now, deyres42 said: Early kick offs are shite though, crowd still half asleep from night before. Really 1.00 early? I would be in favour, ffs Spoons opens at 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Mansfield have moved a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Mansfield have moved a game It won't be the last, it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 4 hours ago, League one forever said: I think it’s an absolute no brainer, not only does it save the club money- but how many times have we sat in the dark at BP in the winter absolutely freezing. There’s a better chance of just being really cold at lunch time Instead of getting frostbite at tea time. And when we are away, we should be back in time for Strictly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: And when we are away, we should be back in time for Strictly... Win, win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: And when we are away, we should be back in time for Strictly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 14 hours ago, disjointed said: I would say 1.30pm at the very latest, possibly 1.00pm Before we had floodlights, Latics Saturday home games in winter were 2 or 230 depending on the date. And 3 for rest of season. People didn’t seem to have a problem changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, LaticsPete said: Before we had floodlights, Latics Saturday home games in winter were 2 or 230 depending on the date. And 3 for rest of season. People didn’t seem to have a problem changing. Even with a 2pm kick off it would be very dark by full time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 4 hours ago, LaticsPete said: Before we had floodlights, Latics Saturday home games in winter were 2 or 230 depending on the date. And 3 for rest of season. People didn’t seem to have a problem changing. Would they be playing in the dark in those days Pete? Because as Dave says in December/January it’s dark by 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor evil Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Would there be a risk of more postponements in winter with early KOs? Pitch inspections happening earlier (especially when a lot of the teams we'll play will be traveling decent distances). Any rearranged fixtures would presumably be midweek nights.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, doctor evil said: Would there be a risk of more postponements in winter with early KOs? Pitch inspections happening earlier (especially when a lot of the teams we'll play will be traveling decent distances). Any rearranged fixtures would presumably be midweek nights.... With our weak floodlights might as well kick off at 1pm. An added bonus would be not having put up with those glaring rotating advertising boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, BP1960 said: With our weak floodlights might as well kick off at 1pm. An added bonus would be not having put up with those glaring rotating advertising boards. Have you ever seen the film '50 First Dates'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 2 hours ago, League one forever said: Would they be playing in the dark in those days Pete? Because as Dave says in December/January it’s dark by 4. They managed! From the Latics v Crewe programme of 29th November 1958:- Future Home Matches Saturday Dec 6th FA Cup v South Shields kick off 2-15pm Saturday Dec 13th v Workington kick off 2.15 pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 I've changed my mind on this. We should kick off at 6pm without floodlights. We may stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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