True Tic Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Yup... time for the players to step up.. btw are Sheron and Norwood suspended for Saturday? Not sure, although a few are carrying some cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Yup... time for the players to step up.. btw are Sheron and Norwood suspended for Saturday? Sheron is Norwood isn’t. The confusion with Norwood is he got yellow card after the game had finished (can’t remember which one). So sites such as flash scores haven't picked it up. He served his one game suspension v York. - Nuttall and Kurt started up top that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 hours ago, wiseowl said: Meanwhile, you conveniently ignore the thrashing by lowly Fylde - possibly the worst performance I`ve ever seen from a Latics team (eclipsing Alty away last season). If ST had have been in charge for that match, I think the reaction would have been far more negative and vociferous. Newport was an insipid performance too. I`ll repeat again, rude, MM has my full support but he's surely not immune from observation? There has been an initial regression. The defence is suddenly letting more goals in and we are losing games. We weren't under ST. I genuinely expect a very strong home performance this weekend. MM/Brabin have now had time to have a real good look at what they have got and to stamp their authority on the squad (they seem that type). Upwards and onwards. I’m not ignoring it. I’m saying that you saying MM has lost 2 out of 4, is unfair, when you are counting a cup game away at a team in a higher league. MM has lost 1 in 3 in the league. That would still make your point, as he lost 1, and ST won a very similar game. But making conclusions from 6 or 3 or 4 games isn’t very wise and is unfair to both ST and MM. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, BP1960 said: His dad was a striker, up front next perhaps? As mentioned he's strong and can strike a ball well. Nephew of Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBigDog said: Yup... time for the players to step up.. btw are Sheron and Norwood suspended for Saturday? Sheron yes, Norwood no. Norwood has already served a one match suspension for accumulating five bookings. It was the 2-0 win against York which gives us a 100% record this season without Norwood in the match day squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 21 hours ago, wiseowl said: I give up. I don't even know what gaslighting is and can't be bothered to look it up. ST was unbeaten in 6 - MM has lost 2 out of 4. I support MM and that needs no further clarification because I gave a lengthy response previously. You clearly enjoy being a drama queen. If only you would give up. Resorting to personal insults now, always a giveaway . As has been pointed out, you also drag a defeat in a Cup game away to a team a league higher into your statistical comparison. Well done. I also note that "regression" has now become "initial regression" which I guess at least acknowledges that MM's tenure as manager has barely started. Come back to me with your views on him when he's got, say, at least a dozen games under his belt. Might be a touch fairer, possibly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, rudemedic said: I’m not ignoring it. I’m saying that you saying MM has lost 2 out of 4, is unfair, when you are counting a cup game away at a team in a higher league. MM has lost 1 in 3 in the league. That would still make your point, as he lost 1, and ST won a very similar game. But making conclusions from 6 or 3 or 4 games isn’t very wise and is unfair to both ST and MM. Effectively the point I was making, thanks and exactly why talk of "regressing" under MM is premature to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 34 minutes ago, Worcester Owl said: If only you would give up. Resorting to personal insults now, always a giveaway . As has been pointed out, you also drag a defeat in a Cup game away to a team a league higher into your statistical comparison. Well done. I also note that "regression" has now become "initial regression" which I guess at least acknowledges that MM's tenure as manager has barely started. Come back to me with your views on him when he's got, say, at least a dozen games under his belt. Might be a touch fairer, possibly? Personal insults - give over. You were the one jumping on me with your hyperbole. We essentially agree! Give MM some time - I was merely making observations along the way; as you do with footy. It's not exactly been "new manager bounce" has it? Again, we DID at least get that with ST. Shall we agree to draw a line under it now? Sorry if you genuinely felt insulted by the "drama queen" reference. My son has, in fact, told me that nowadays, it's politically frowned upon anyway and I should say, "drama Llama" apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 minute ago, wiseowl said: Personal insults - give over. You were the one jumping on me with your hyperbole. We essentially agree! Give MM some time - I was merely making observations along the way; as you do with footy. It's not exactly been "new manager bounce" has it? Again, we DID at least get that with ST. Shall we agree to draw a line under it now? Sorry if you genuinely felt insulted by the "drama queen" reference. My son has, in fact, told me that nowadays, it's politically frowned upon anyway and I should say, "drama Llama" apparently. What I find frustrating - (and I’m not putting this at Mellons door because his record speaks for itself) is how the players can’t seemingly get themselves up to play for a new manager. Two of the four performances have been really flat, where they are aren’t even doing the basics. I’ve said it elsewhere- but to many are coasting. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, League one forever said: What I find frustrating - (and I’m not putting this at Mellons door because his record speaks for itself) is how the players can’t seemingly get themselves up to play for a new manager. Two of the four performances have been really flat, where they are aren’t even doing the basics. I’ve said it elsewhere- but to many are coasting. I don’t know this, but I get the feeling the players liked Thommo, maybe some are a bit annoyed he didn’t get the job ? - pure speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, LightDN123 said: I don’t know this, but I get the feeling the players liked Thommo, maybe some are a bit annoyed he didn’t get the job ? - pure speculation. Possibly, they seemed to like him, but they’re playing for the club. Possibly need reminding of that some of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, wiseowl said: Personal insults - give over. You were the one jumping on me with your hyperbole. We essentially agree! Give MM some time - I was merely making observations along the way; as you do with footy. It's not exactly been "new manager bounce" has it? Again, we DID at least get that with ST. Shall we agree to draw a line under it now? Sorry if you genuinely felt insulted by the "drama queen" reference. My son has, in fact, told me that nowadays, it's politically frowned upon anyway and I should say, "drama Llama" apparently. I couldn't give two hoots what you call me, as you're the one playing the man and not the ball it says more about you. As does your difficulty in accepting that MM can't be judged after just three league games, whereas ST apparently can. Carry on wriggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Personal insults - give over. You were the one jumping on me with your hyperbole. We essentially agree! Give MM some time - I was merely making observations along the way; as you do with footy. It's not exactly been "new manager bounce" has it? Again, we DID at least get that with ST. Shall we agree to draw a line under it now? Sorry if you genuinely felt insulted by the "drama queen" reference. My son has, in fact, told me that nowadays, it's politically frowned upon anyway and I should say, "drama Llama" apparently. Drama Llama sounds like something @Monty Burns would have an interesting tale about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, rudemedic said: Drama Llama sounds like something @Monty Burns would have an interesting tale about. They sound like a band from the last 5 years who became popular because of one song, but are basically shit... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 2 hours ago, wiseowl said: Personal insults - give over. You were the one jumping on me with your hyperbole. We essentially agree! Give MM some time - I was merely making observations along the way; as you do with footy. It's not exactly been "new manager bounce" has it? Again, we DID at least get that with ST. Shall we agree to draw a line under it now? Sorry if you genuinely felt insulted by the "drama queen" reference. My son has, in fact, told me that nowadays, it's politically frowned upon anyway and I should say, "drama Llama" apparently. Because llamas are renowned for their lack of resilience under pressure... Tell him to do one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeP said: They sound like a band from the last 5 years who became popular because of one song, but are basically shit... Well I was going to add a John Peel meme but can't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 hours ago, LightDN123 said: I don’t know this, but I get the feeling the players liked Thommo, maybe some are a bit annoyed he didn’t get the job ? - pure speculation. You might be right, but the last three performances under him were a bit flat also. If they liked him that much, they should have pulled their tripe out a bit more and made sure he got the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldham57 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 I just feel the chemistry isn't right in the squad which is why the look flat. I thought norwood would be the "gazza" of the group and galvanise the team but he appears to be the one who's regretting the move to us the most, i dont think ive seen him smile yet. A couple of new faces and characters can change all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 20 hours ago, OneSizeFitz said: Not disputing that - but he's not exactly Kevin De Bruyne when it comes to creating chances... Neither is Ngolo Kante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles or Eddie Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Mike Williamson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 19 hours ago, rudemedic said: Drama Llama sounds like something @Monty Burns would have an interesting tale about. Anyone heard from Monty ? He’s not posted in a few days (unlike him). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Just now, LightDN123 said: Anyone heard from Monty ? He’s not posted in a few days (unlike him). Hopefully just drawing breath. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 52 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: Anyone heard from Monty ? He’s not posted in a few days (unlike him). I had noticed that - hopefully just taking a breather from his twenty or thirty posts a day! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 22 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: I had noticed that - hopefully just taking a breather from his twenty or thirty posts a day! I dropped him a direct message a few days ago and not heard anything. Hope he’s okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, JoeP said: They sound like a band from the last 5 years who became popular because of one song, but are basically shit... I remember watching 'The Llama Farmers' at Werneth Park. No idea if they were shit. Edited November 10, 2023 by longtimeblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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