lookersstandandy Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 8 hours ago, kowenicki said: ... and calling fans that attend games geriatric lemmings isn’t? I do do think you are probably correct to be fair about this, but I wouldn’t underestimate the attraction to some personalities of being able to say “I told you so... I was right!”. It is - in equal measure. You could argue the same for those that are demanding more time for Mr. Lemsagam. Arguing the hand he’s been dealt is the reason he’s struggled to date. Once he rights the wrongs of the previous regime and sets about the plan he eventually outlined, we’ll be on a sound footing and able to compete once again. Oh, and he’s wiped off £5m of debt with his own money! I think this preposterous delusional balderdash.... but I would rather have those I describe above screaming ‘I told you so’ in my face, than Mr. Lemsagam hanging around for too long and me being right. FWIW, I don’t think Marco will be here for very long. He’s already bitten off more than he can chew and his primary idea of raiding European/World leagues is failing.... and I expect it’ll get worse. The FLG will - in the end - be his excuse. He’ll blame them for his own failings and then walk. I just hope he hasn’t done too much damage by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 As independent an opinion as we can get. A simple, well worded communication could have gained a bit of trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, yarddog73 said: Have I ever once said "I told you so..... I was right" about all the posts I got pelters for with regards to Corneys reign and the distrust I had in that bloke?. It honestly isn't about us wanting to fail to prove a point, some fans just won't accept this bloke because of the way he treats people, runs the club, tells lies.... you see the same defence of this bloke that the Corney fans used to throw out, it's a trodden path and all the signs are there that this fellas motives may be flawed so why not put pressure on him to behave in a more honourable way for the greater good of the football club, anyone not worried about how this man operates really needs to wake up in my eyes but we all see things differently. One final point and this is where my info on Pete Wild came from this week with regards to the Halifax job, I wasnt in Pete's company but overheard a conversation he had with a mutual friend, Pete Wild for all he did was offered peanuts and I mean peanuts to be manager of our club (a kid leaving school would be disappointed to be offered the wage) now he was still tempted to take it obviously but went on to say the he couldn't work for Abdallah particularly with his brother around calling the shots, he went on to say he'd of ended up losing the job by now in any case because he wasn't allowed to get on with the job and wouldn't be able to keep his mouth shut so had to get out, I have no reason at all to think he wasn't telling the truth but it just goes to show what a shit show it must be at BP when a true fan finds probably his dream job unmanageable. Same bloke is a mate of Steve Eyre and he said Clarke will be offered a one year deal at Fleetwood. It was Eyre who invited Clarke to traini with them as he's a big fan of his. First of all, I wasn’t aiming that at anyone in particular. It was a general observation. I don’t disagree with your second paragraph... but you aren’t putting pressure on him. You just call him names on a forum. He won’t give a shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 37 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: It is - in equal measure. You could argue the same for those that are demanding more time for Mr. Lemsagam. Arguing the hand he’s been dealt is the reason he’s struggled to date. Once he rights the wrongs of the previous regime and sets about the plan he eventually outlined, we’ll be on a sound footing and able to compete once again. Oh, and he’s wiped off £5m of debt with his own money! I think this preposterous delusional balderdash.... but I would rather have those I describe above screaming ‘I told you so’ in my face, than Mr. Lemsagam hanging around for too long and me being right. FWIW, I don’t think Marco will be here for very long. He’s already bitten off more than he can chew and his primary idea of raiding European/World leagues is failing.... and I expect it’ll get worse. The FLG will - in the end - be his excuse. He’ll blame them for his own failings and then walk. I just hope he hasn’t done too much damage by then I don’t think there are many “demanding” more time for AL. Possibly a handful on here. Maybe more elsewhere I suppose. I have also been surprised people have readily accepted that 5m of debt has suddenly vanished. As I’ve said previously, I’d be bloody amazed if he’s made any headway at all on long term debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 49 minutes ago, kowenicki said: I don’t think there are many “demanding” more time for AL. Possibly a handful on here. Maybe more elsewhere I suppose. I have also been surprised people have readily accepted that 5m of debt has suddenly vanished. As I’ve said previously, I’d be bloody amazed if he’s made any headway at all on long term debt. The adjective is the least important part of my post.... there are a handful of vocal folk who are yet to be convinced Marco is a wrong’un.... plus the Chuckle faceache lemmings.... I think they’re wrong. ....well, agreed. The £5m gets the headline - which of course could simply be him not recognising liabilities of the previous admin, that could well yet come to bite him on the ass.... but also in those numbers was an increase in creditors, to the tune of £600k.... with £1m more debtors cancelling it out. What debtors would we have that would increase money owed by £1m? Hopefully the Trust will get full access to detailed accounts to be able to question his decision making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, kowenicki said: First of all, I wasn’t aiming that at anyone in particular. It was a general observation. I don’t disagree with your second paragraph... but you aren’t putting pressure on him. You just call him names on a forum. He won’t give a shit. I know he doesn't give a shit which is probably part of the problem and I am also well aware that he doesn't feel any pressure particularly from me but momentum is swinging against him through such things as the FLG, he won't take much comfort out of the statement released on Twitter with regards to the accounts and the general disenchantment that's evident throughout the fan base, of course there is a flip side and some will be happy or keeping a watching brief for now hoping his 'plan' comes together but at the very least he is a divisive figure who seems to have surrounded himself with idiots which in my opinion is never a good mix, I really do hope we somehow get off to a flier this season because if we don't I will predict the shit really will hit the fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Regarding to the Trust getting full access to detailed accounts next week . . . . If the FLG big reveal has any Trust Directors, I can see absolutely no chance of AL showing anything, never mind the accounts Talk about a conflict of interest !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, tGWB said: the FLG big reveal I've seen this phrase a few times now - is it some modern toss from reality TV or the like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 How have the Trust got on with seeing the more detailed accounts @Andy b ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tGWB Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Lee Sinnott said: How have the Trust got on with seeing the more detailed accounts @Andy b ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 hours ago, lookersstandandy said: It is - in equal measure. You could argue the same for those that are demanding more time for Mr. Lemsagam. Arguing the hand he’s been dealt is the reason he’s struggled to date. Once he rights the wrongs of the previous regime and sets about the plan he eventually outlined, we’ll be on a sound footing and able to compete once again. Oh, and he’s wiped off £5m of debt with his own money! I think this preposterous delusional balderdash.... but I would rather have those I describe above screaming ‘I told you so’ in my face, than Mr. Lemsagam hanging around for too long and me being right. FWIW, I don’t think Marco will be here for very long. He’s already bitten off more than he can chew and his primary idea of raiding European/World leagues is failing.... and I expect it’ll get worse. The FLG will - in the end - be his excuse. He’ll blame them for his own failings and then walk. I just hope he hasn’t done too much damage by then I reckon that might be a decent shout. I fervently hope your last sentence proves to be the case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Trust say they will be looking at the accounts next Friday, despite being told it would be this week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 6 hours ago, tGWB said: Regarding to the Trust getting full access to detailed accounts next week . . . . If the FLG big reveal has any Trust Directors, I can see absolutely no chance of AL showing anything, never mind the accounts Talk about a conflict of interest !! Are there any detailed accounts? 4 hours ago, Worcester Owl said: I reckon that might be a decent shout. I fervently hope your last sentence proves to be the case! If he throws in the towel, who takes over? Someone on here said that the FLG have the money to buy out the OEC and Brassbank, but would struggle to run the club in L!/2. If hey did take over and owned the lot, then I guess it would be much easier to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, al_bro said: If hey did take over and owned the lot, then I guess it would be much easier to sell. Sell to who though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 23 hours ago, laticsmarra said: I think most of us on here would love to return to the days of just turning up to support a viable team without any thought for behind the scenes activity.Unfortunately some of us have either friends,acquaintances or just people that we admire who have been badly treated by the current regime. They have either been sacked or decided to leave and get out of the club they once loved. It is difficult to set aside feelings in those circumstances and some of the vitriol spouted on here against the current Board is rooted in those feelings. I totally understand anyone who has been caught up in the club's misdemeanours to be angry and vindictive. I haven't so I can only view things from my perspective...it's not that I have no sympathy for those people but the nostalgia element will always rear its head. I don't want to and cannot get embroiled in the back-biting and cat-calling...it's oppressive and draining and I just want to go and hopefully enjoy some football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 5 hours ago, al_bro said: Are there any detailed accounts? If he throws in the towel, who takes over? Someone on here said that the FLG have the money to buy out the OEC and Brassbank, but would struggle to run the club in L!/2. If hey did take over and owned the lot, then I guess it would be much easier to sel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 12 hours ago, tGWB said: Regarding to the Trust getting full access to detailed accounts next week . . . . If the FLG big reveal has any Trust Directors, I can see absolutely no chance of AL showing anything, never mind the accounts Talk about a conflict of interest !! For the avoidance of doubt, the trust is wholly independent of the FLG. None the the aforementioned group sit on the trust board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Just now, Andy b said: For the avoidance of doubt, the trust is wholly independent of the FLG. None the the aforementioned group sit on the trust board. U seen the accounts yet? Will they be full accounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, latics22 said: U seen the accounts yet? Will they be full accounts Access to full accounts expected on Friday 2nd August at club board meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Andy b said: Access to full accounts expected on Friday 2nd August at club board meeting. They were expected this week according to Darren's Twitter update the other day. What reasons have the club given for it not being this week...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Lee Sinnott said: They were expected this week according to Darren's Twitter update the other day. What reasons have the club given for it not being this week...? https://twitter.com/webdarren/status/1153377917830914049?s=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsmarra Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, Wardie said: I totally understand anyone who has been caught up in the club's misdemeanours to be angry and vindictive. I haven't so I can only view things from my perspective...it's not that I have no sympathy for those people but the nostalgia element will always rear its head. I don't want to and cannot get embroiled in the back-biting and cat-calling...it's oppressive and draining and I just want to go and hopefully enjoy some football. Don't we all Wardie,but sometimes it's difficult and this regime has a trail of devastation in its' wake. I don't know Pete Wild personally, but for instance why has Pete turned down Latics the club he supports for Halifax.Things must be bad and that is for all to see whether or not you have other insights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsmarra Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: https://twitter.com/webdarren/status/1153377917830914049?s=19 The full accounts won't need a forensic exercise for goodnees sake.Just publish them, be transparent and many of us on here will be able to understand them. We don't need a commitee to sanitise them on Friday Darren.If AL won't let you publish them we won't be surprised,thats another issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, laticsmarra said: The full accounts won't need a forensic exercise for goodnees sake.Just publish them, be transparent and many of us on here will be able to understand them. We don't need a commitee to sanitise them on Friday Darren.If AL won't let you publish them we won't be surprised,thats another issue. You expect them to publish every transaction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Am sure the club keep saying that we are nearly debt free. The accounts come out and sure enough they reflect a better footing. It can't be right it's not what we want to see say some. Look the club have published some figures, if they prove utterly fake then the powers that be will be slapped by the proper authorities. Not this board. Its clear from all the evidence of disgruntled ex staff that stuff isn't being done by convention. So the question is, are we where we are by convention or the mismanagement of the previous 20 years? So could non convention by the answer. Until someone stumps up the readies it's AL's club to run, nothing changes for us who just support the club. So support. Long live the King till the new King cometh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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