jorvik_latic Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Just now, kowenicki said: Well yes, but whilst representing the fans surely? It was created to give a voice to the fans in the stewardship of the club.. no? Yes. But you were the one that put PURELY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 minute ago, jorvik_latic said: Yes. But you were the one that put PURELY. I know. Got carried away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, underdog said: Sorry to hear that. Thanks , it started 9 month ago, so have had ro move on, but it's been just an empty plot for 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, singe said: Thing is it's not a residents association or suchlike, it's a legal shareholding entity with legal responsiblities. The have shares in a limited company and obligations as Directors. But even they were a residents association they still have obligation and inclination to communicate especially if they want to be constituted to obtain funding. Looking at the professionalism of all involved, I highly doubt anyone just opped along for some free coffee, they joined to make a difference and contribute. And they have. They could not exist as shareholders in the format you give and could achieve and do nothing if they were. They would just be guys sitting in a pub, ignored by the club. I was secretary of a residents association for many years, we had an excellent set up with a legal constitution and good funding. The committee did their best for the local community within the constitution, yet some still criticised, never putting themselves forward to help in anyway. In the end the other members and I decided we'd all had enough and resigned. We are now left with a much neglected area, which is a shame really. Don't let the Trust go the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Several people on here have quoted MM as saying on GMR that the takeover is days away. He said he hopes it's days away. It's all in the hands of the EFL as to how long they take to make a decision. They may come back and tell the club that they don't think AL is a suitable club owner and everything will then be off. I think MM said that there was another meeting scheduled for today. The club keep answering there questions but again MM has no more idea than us as to the time the EFL will come to a decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Groundhog day................................... in more ways than 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, BP1960 said: I was secretary of a residents association for many years, we had an excellent set up with a legal constitution and good funding. The committee did their best for the local community within the constitution, yet some still criticised, never putting themselves forward to help in anyway. In the end the other members and I decided we'd all had enough and resigned. We are now left with a much neglected area, which is a shame really. Don't let the Trust go the same way. Hats off, no easy task. Ditto my Mum and Dad, although it was resurrected years later, although we had all moved away by then. I did similar for a local Neighbourhood Plan and taken stick verbally to my face some from people I considered friends, though I left because of the political structure rather the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, al_bro said: Several people on here have quoted MM as saying on GMR that the takeover is days away. He said he hopes it's days away. It's all in the hands of the EFL as to how long they take to make a decision. They may come back and tell the club that they don't think AL is a suitable club owner and everything will then be off. I think MM said that there was another meeting scheduled for today. The club keep answering there questions but again MM has no more idea than us as to the time the EFL will come to a decision. Are we the club they have been most diligent on ever?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Are we there yet? I Need to pee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, ChaddySmoker said: Groundhog day................................... in more ways than 1 As in there’s a beef up and you’ve shown up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Fnal comment. We all care about the club. And the Trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, ChaddySmoker said: Groundhog day................................... in more ways than 1 Ned Ryerson? Ned Ryerson is that really you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, al_bro said: Several people on here have quoted MM as saying on GMR that the takeover is days away. He said he hopes it's days away. It's all in the hands of the EFL as to how long they take to make a decision. They may come back and tell the club that they don't think AL is a suitable club owner and everything will then be off. I think MM said that there was another meeting scheduled for today. The club keep answering there questions but again MM has no more idea than us as to the time the EFL will come to a decision. Admittedly he stated takeover in hands if EFL now so he couldn’t commit. However he clearly stated new signings will not be reliant on takeover being completed and that SC/AL will be supporting RW on securing his targets. Less than 24 hours later, these targets are now reliant upon the takeover being completed. This is what frustrates me. Constant mixed messages. Clarke wages freed up, Menig on way, loanees gone back - why can’t we strengthen? Also if AL is taking over and it’s a matter of when rather than if then why not fund now? 12 points being gambled this month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Midsblue said: Admittedly he stated takeover in hands if EFL now so he couldn’t commit. However he clearly stated new signings will not be reliant on takeover being completed and that SC/AL will be supporting RW on securing his targets. Less than 24 hours later, these targets are now reliant upon the takeover being completed. This is what frustrates me. Constant mixed messages. Clarke wages freed up, Menig on way, loanees gone back - why can’t we strengthen? Also if AL is taking over and it’s a matter of when rather than if then why not fund now? 12 points being gambled this month Yes. It does make you wonder what exactly is causing the delay. Is there anything to prevent AL gifting the club money, if indeed he has any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Midsblue said: This is what frustrates me. Constant mixed messages. Clarke wages freed up, Menig on way, loanees gone back - why can’t we strengthen? Indeed. And today, in his Presser, Wellens has let slip that McEleney hasn’t even been registered yet ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Midsblue said: Admittedly he stated takeover in hands if EFL now so he couldn’t commit. However he clearly stated new signings will not be reliant on takeover being completed and that SC/AL will be supporting RW on securing his targets. Less than 24 hours later, these targets are now reliant upon the takeover being completed. This is what frustrates me. Constant mixed messages. Clarke wages freed up, Menig on way, loanees gone back - why can’t we strengthen? Also if AL is taking over and it’s a matter of when rather than if then why not fund now? 12 points being gambled this month Still not as bleak as 1959 though, and look what happened a year later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Still not as bleak as 1959 though, and look what happened a year later. I was born... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: Indeed. And today, in his Presser, Wellens has let slip that McEleney hasn’t even been registered yet ? ? Ah that's what Monty Burns was referring to. Not good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 hours ago, laticsmarra said: This thread really calls into question why any supporter would voluntarily seek to represent the broader body of supporters in any way. Inevitably they get drawn into personal squabbles and insults. I would expect that in the long run no one will put their hand up to represent us in whatever format. We have about 4,000 regular paying fans and a few thousand more occasional's - I doubt 7 cranks on an internet message board will deter those that are so inclined from going down such a road.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: We have about 4,000 regular paying fans and a few thousand more occasional's - I doubt 7 cranks on an internet message board will deter those that are so inclined from going down such a road.... Well it certainly put me off when I put my head over the parapet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Well it certainly put me off when I put my head over the parapet. I tend to put my head over whilst it's in a challenger 2 tank with britains finest behind me....well in my imaginary world that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: We have about 4,000 regular paying fans and a few thousand more occasional's - I doubt 7 cranks on an internet message board will deter those that are so inclined from going down such a road.... Oh shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesidg Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: We have about 4,000 regular paying fans and a few thousand more occasional's - I doubt 7 cranks on an internet message board will deter those that are so inclined from going down such a road.... Only 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 3 hours ago, deyres42 said: This delay excuse/issue keeps cropping up. What do we think the issue would be? Can't be about funds as surely that would be one of the first questions asked? More to the Menig move than meets the eye perhaps? Pure speculation of course, but it might be the case that the FL are examining AL on the "fit and proper person test" and specifically on whether he is or is not still a football agent. Given that he apparently was an agent until comparatively recently, it is understandable if they are demanding convincing evidence that he no longer has that status. When you look at some of the owners who have passed the F&P test in the past it can only be assumed (1) the test has been tightened up, (2) we are an easier club for the FL to get tough with than certain others who could be named. Credit to AL at least for having the patience to stay involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I think I've realised a difference to a number of people re the Trust , as I'm not a season ticket holder I pay by monthly Direct Debit and have for years rather than a cost free add on. I'm not saying I care more or less than the next person , just a different viewpoint. We move on. Come on FL put us out of our misery one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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