jorvik_latic Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 48 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Yes, but it’s THE main thing pointed to by the FLG isn’t it? It’s buttons. No, no it isn't. You're making that up. "In terms of ‘unreasonable demands’ the proposed SLA for the new season has the same commercial terms applied to it as the previous 2018/19 season agreement, with a 4% increase to cover a rise in the minimum wage and food costs over the last 12 months. The Club have also been offered a guaranteed income from the kiosks, something that in previous season’s hasn’t happened." - https://boundaryparkpurchase.home.blog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Have you ever worked in the hospitality industry? What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, kowenicki said: Yes, but it’s THE main thing pointed to by the FLG isn’t it? It’s buttons. Why can’t the club pay it then? Especially knowing they’ll be getting more back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: Have you ever worked in the hospitality industry? Its an industry with low margins and large numbers of staff most of which are on minimum wage. I worked for a very large one at one point they said if they increased the staff pay from minimum wage to what was a "living wage" at the time it would half the profits. Seriously it makes a difference. +1. I've been in the Catering Industry for 37 years, 32 as a manager and staff and food costs have increased markedly in the last 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, singe said: +1. I've been in the Catering Industry for 37 years, 32 as a manager and staff and food costs have increased markedly in the last 2 years. No, no, no. Kowenicki the business guru has said that there's hardly any impact. You must be wrong. The FLG are trying to screw the club over.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsmarra Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 hours ago, kowenicki said: Seems to be a reasonable summary. The thing about the minimum wage is bogus too imo. Pretty much every business I’m aware of just soaks that up and takes a hit on profits...therein lies the problem of course If the OEC will live or die (or really struggle) based purely on a minimum wage rise for a handful of people then it is a terrible business and the FLG are stupid for taking it on. 40p per hour more for a low number of part time staff... we are talking two or three grand a year tops surely? Of course it is significant, food and wage costs are the most significant direct costs of any hospitality business.40 pubs a week are being closed because of this,in an industry with historically low margins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 43 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: No, no, no. Kowenicki the business guru has said that there's hardly any impact. You must be wrong. The FLG are trying to screw the club over.... #agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 49 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: No, no, no. Kowenicki the business guru has said that there's hardly any impact. You must be wrong. The FLG are trying to screw the club over.... WUM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 52 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: No, no, no. Kowenicki the business guru has said that there's hardly any impact. You must be wrong. The FLG are trying to screw the club over.... Yes. That’s exactly what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, deyres42 said: WUM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, kowenicki said: Yes. That’s exactly what I said. Not verbatim, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 hours ago, jorvik_latic said: No, no it isn't. You're making that up. "In terms of ‘unreasonable demands’ the proposed SLA for the new season has the same commercial terms applied to it as the previous 2018/19 season agreement, with a 4% increase to cover a rise in the minimum wage and food costs over the last 12 months. The Club have also been offered a guaranteed income from the kiosks, something that in previous season’s hasn’t happened." - https://boundaryparkpurchase.home.blog/ How many staff do they have serving on match day that is rechargeable to OAFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 blimey, question the FLG and people get awfully triggered don’t they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, kowenicki said: How many staff do they have serving on match day that is rechargeable to OAFC? No idea. Bar staff, kitchen staff, waiting staff, box hosts. There's a few. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, kowenicki said: blimey, question the FLG and people get awfully triggered don’t they. Try and make out that it's nothing to try and say that the FLG are screwing the club and you'll get pulled up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: Try and make out that it's nothing to try and say that the FLG are screwing the club and you'll get pulled up on it. If you say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanny Adams Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, kowenicki said: blimey, question the FLG and people get awfully triggered don’t they. I think its more down to the fact you rub people up the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Fanny Adams said: I think its more down to the fact you rub people up the wrong way. Same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, kowenicki said: If you say so. What is it you're trying to do then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 hours ago, jorvik_latic said: No, no it isn't. You're making that up. "In terms of ‘unreasonable demands’ the proposed SLA for the new season has the same commercial terms applied to it as the previous 2018/19 season agreement, with a 4% increase to cover a rise in the minimum wage and food costs over the last 12 months. The Club have also been offered a guaranteed income from the kiosks, something that in previous season’s hasn’t happened." - https://boundaryparkpurchase.home.blog/ 2 hours ago, maddog said: Why can’t the club pay it then? Especially knowing they’ll be getting more back. So the fixed income offer represents more than what the club has made from it in previous seasons/last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: So the fixed income offer represents more than what the club has made from it in previous seasons/last season? I don’t know - that’s not what I meant. But if it’s ‘just buttons’ of 3-4K, and will in reality be less than that, due to the extra they’ll be getting, why can’t the club pay it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 56 minutes ago, kowenicki said: blimey, question the FLG and people get awfully triggered don’t they. Triggered? This is getting a bit Piers Morgan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, maddog said: I don’t know - that’s not what I meant. But if it’s ‘just buttons’ of 3-4K, and will in reality be less than that, due to the extra they’ll be getting, why can’t the club pay it? Its a good question... and it’s also a circular argument. This all just reinforces how silly it is to have separate ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 36 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Its a good question... and it’s also a circular argument. This all just reinforces how silly it is to have separate ownership. Also proves how a club our size and income cannot sustain idea's of grandeur whilst individual interests diverting monies from one central pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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