Sheep Foot Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, BP1960 said: When 3 are on him others players should be available in space to receive the ball from him and immediately switch play, too often though they are nowhere near him to do this. That’s not necessarily right or as simple as that though is it....if 3 are on him that is only 2 additional men....we will.certainly have 2 men at least holding at the back so the opposition will have enough men available to double up or triple up on him but still be able to cover any of our players in threatening orvavailable positions. The secret is to move the ball at pace....one touch is better than 2 and 2 is better than 3 ......it has been shown that every touch above one allows defenders to move 5 yards per touch and negate momentum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, RobinsDuckEgg said: Thought it was Bahamboulah who changed the game. As soon as he came on he had 2 or 3 defenders watching him leaving loads of space for Garrity's but especially DKD's runs, and still DKD managed to balls it up a couple of times. Bahamboula is a very skilful footballer of that there is no doubt. However, in my opinion, he is let down by his decision making and his desire to hold on to the ball. He is often double or triple-teamed when he gets the ball but far too often wants to beat them all instead of moving the ball on quickly. His assist statistics show how valuable he can be to the side but teams are now becoming aware of his potential and he no longer gets the time to impact the game as he once did. Apart from the penalty he scored at Bournemouth, his last goal/assist was against Newport six games ago. Having said that, he is still vital to our attacking threat and should be starting every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 We have a couple of good players, a couple of average players, and a bunch of non-league players. Sometimes the latter group play up, and look average, sometimes they don't, and look shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: We have a couple of good players, a couple of average players, and a bunch of non-league players. Sometimes the latter group play up, and look average, sometimes they don't, and look shit. Fair summary. Borthwick-Jackson. Jesus wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Dave_Og said: Equidistant from relegation and play offs but realistically closer to the former as we've played more games than most We are a very odd team. Games against top 6 sides: Won 3, drawn 1, lost 1. Bottom 6: Won 3, drawn 1, lost 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, TheBigDog said: Bahamboula is a very skilful footballer of that there is no doubt. However, in my opinion, he is let down by his decision making and his desire to hold on to the ball. He is often double or triple-teamed when he gets the ball but far too often wants to beat them all instead of moving the ball on quickly. His assist statistics show how valuable he can be to the side but teams are now becoming aware of his potential and he no longer gets the time to impact the game as he once did. Apart from the penalty he scored at Bournemouth, his last goal/assist was against Newport six games ago. Having said that, he is still vital to our attacking threat and should be starting every game. This is probably down to the fact he’s well aware his options are the likes of Garrity - he may as well lose the ball himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 59 minutes ago, kowenicki said: We are a very odd team. Games against top 6 sides: Won 3, drawn 1, lost 1. Bottom 6: Won 3, drawn 1, lost 2. I think it just proves there is very little quality in the division, and playing in empty grounds doesn't give a home advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, oafcmetty said: We have a couple of good players, a couple of average players, and a bunch of non-league players. Sometimes the latter group play up, and look average, sometimes they don't, and look shit. Sometimes our good players play shit as well, hence the level they are playing at. The average players are the most reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, oafc 123 said: Sometimes our good players play shit as well, hence the level they are playing at. The average players are the most reliable. Unless they ‘play shit as well’ that is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Foot Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, oafc 123 said: Sometimes our good players play shit as well, hence the level they are playing at. The average players are the most reliable. So average players are better than good players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Unless they ‘play shit as well’ that is... Their advantage is they never play particularly well. So when they do play shit is goes more unnoticed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Sheep Foot said: So average players are better than good players? It was said tongue in cheek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Foot Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, oafc 123 said: It was said tongue in cheek If you say so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Having watched most teams this season, it really is a crap league and, sadly, we're stuck in the middle of it, which is a fair reflection. We need a RB, CB, at least one CM and more cover/competition for Rowe. We're not going to get it. Garrity, Dunn, Barnett, Fage, Blackman - very, very poor. Pointless, them being here. Grant, Jombati, Ntembwe, Hamer, Pidge, Whelan - below average, at best. Lawlor, C J-B, Mcalmont - possibly, but very inconsistent. Some of the others, we just don't know. Confidence is a factor. Bottom line - we need at least four quality players, but really we need more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emcee_Latic Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 5 hours ago, BP1960 said: When 3 are on him others players should be available in space to receive the ball from him and immediately switch play, too often though they are nowhere near him to do this. Totally agree. We seem to have 9 men on the pitch. There is no central midfield presence at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Keillor Dunn for me is a bit of an enigma... at times he looks so comfortable running with the ball at his feet and has created a few openings and scored a few goals, however, without the ball he is a complete liability. IMO If he could sort out the defensive side of his game he could be a really good player! We have one or two others who have good qualities but seem to lack the drive enthusiasm and consistency to go any further in the game. I suppose that’s the reason they’re plying their trade in what really is a very poor division! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Rex Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Cov fan here. Really hope that Hillsner does well. Takes balls to move from Germany to UK during Covid and then to have the difficult time he had done with us just feel like he had a lot more to offer. Hearing he is a bit unfit and overweight but hopefully he head a good half a season with you lot and helps you push up that table. Think your club should be in league 1 really and have been punching below your weight for a few years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 8 hours ago, bigfatjoe1 said: Garrity, Dunn, Barnett, Fage, Blackman - very, very poor. Pointless, them being here. He must be very, very poor as I’ve never heard of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinsDuckEgg Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 12 hours ago, TheBigDog said: Bahamboula is a very skilful footballer of that there is no doubt. However, in my opinion, he is let down by his decision making and his desire to hold on to the ball. He is often double or triple-teamed when he gets the ball but far too often wants to beat them all instead of moving the ball on quickly. His assist statistics show how valuable he can be to the side but teams are now becoming aware of his potential and he no longer gets the time to impact the game as he once did. Apart from the penalty he scored at Bournemouth, his last goal/assist was against Newport six games ago. Having said that, he is still vital to our attacking threat and should be starting every game. Yes. agree with all of that - he's certainly let down by is decision making. His decision to come here was perhaps his biggest mistake. But your point concerns what he directly affects on the pitch. Indirectly, because teams are shit scared of anyone who can run at them and is capable of getting passed one or two defenders they over mark him leaving space that others could thrive in, even when he doesn't have the ball, that is if we had anyone who could pass it to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinsDuckEgg Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Garrity put in some dangerous crosses yesterday, for a man totally incapable of reaching his man with a direct pass. If we're stuck with him, perhaps Kewell should be encouraging him to get wide and instead of trying to hit a man, just get the ball across into a dangerous area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 8 hours ago, oafc1955 said: Keillor Dunn for me is a bit of an enigma... at times he looks so comfortable running with the ball at his feet and has created a few openings and scored a few goals, however, without the ball he is a complete liability. IMO If he could sort out the defensive side of his game he could be a really good player! I think our expectations have been set so low, that we've come to accept the most minute evidence of competence as "good". There's not one midfielder on our books at the moment I'd trust to control a simple ball and complete a pass to a team-mate 5 yards away every time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Alfie can be good, I think he thought he was playing for Walsall yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 From his post match comments yesterday it seems like Kewell’s patience is wearing thin with our inconsistency and inability to get motivated until we go a goal down. Stat - Latics have conceded the first goal in 15 of our 23 league games this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 It all points to trying to keep the ones that are decent, plus sticking with the manager, and building on it next season. It’s telling that we probably have something to build on for next season, albeit the bare bones of a foundation perhaps. But that’s significantly better than other seasons. Keeping the manager in post is key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 13 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: From his post match comments yesterday it seems like Kewell’s patience is wearing thin with our inconsistency and inability to get motivated until we go a goal down. Stat - Latics have conceded the first goal in 15 of our 23 league games this season. Yes. Was pleased with his post match interview in that sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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