Shrek Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 As he's one of our youth products, one of our own, I find it disgusting the way we've treated him. He had, still has, plenty of potential. Hasn't worked out for him, really shame really. We've no intention of keeping him apparently, I believe our offer is around the same as his deal signed last time, straight off a youth. This then traps him as any club signing him owes compo. Unless there has been an update I've missed that still remains. Poor form from us IMO.
Bobledgersheart Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 Some may say with his injury record he was lucky to be offered a contract. Hasn't really progressed much since his debut, probably due to injury problems. He could always refuse the offer and try to get fixed up elsewhere.
nzlatic Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, Shrek said: As he's one of our youth products, one of our own, I find it disgusting the way we've treated him. He had, still has, plenty of potential. Hasn't worked out for him, really shame really. We've no intention of keeping him apparently, I believe our offer is around the same as his deal signed last time, straight off a youth. This then traps him as any club signing him owes compo. Unless there has been an update I've missed that still remains. Poor form from us IMO. Wasn't he on trial at Barnsley? If they'd picked him up for nothing because we hadn't offered a contract (as I believe happened with Simms) then the club will have got pelters for missing out. Has he had offers/interest from clubs lower down the pyramid who can't afford the compensation so take it no further?
LaticsPete Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 He wasn’t good enough but we offered him a new contract . He turned it down. How is that treating him badly?
LightDN123 Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 He was crap I’m afraid. Simple as that really.
Dave_Og Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, Shrek said: As he's one of our youth products, one of our own, I find it disgusting the way we've treated him. He had, still has, plenty of potential. Hasn't worked out for him, really shame really. We've no intention of keeping him apparently, I believe our offer is around the same as his deal signed last time, straight off a youth. This then traps him as any club signing him owes compo. Unless there has been an update I've missed that still remains. Poor form from us IMO. Standard practice surely.
Shrek Posted September 15, 2023 Author Posted September 15, 2023 25 minutes ago, LaticsPete said: He wasn’t good enough but we offered him a new contract . He turned it down. How is that treating him badly? We offered him a contract the same level as his post youth one. Peanuts, it meant we were due compo. We don't actually want him to sign.
archiecat Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 The harsh realities of life ! be a footballer and earn peanuts or work in a call centre/warehouse etc and be wedged
Lags Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 Had a great chance here.....didn't take it. I'd be surprised if he make me eat humble pie, Amazon are taking on.
TheBigDog Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Shrek said: As he's one of our youth products, one of our own, I find it disgusting the way we've treated him. He had, still has, plenty of potential. Hasn't worked out for him, really shame really. We've no intention of keeping him apparently, I believe our offer is around the same as his deal signed last time, straight off a youth. This then traps him as any club signing him owes compo. Unless there has been an update I've missed that still remains. Poor form from us IMO. He was offered a deal on the same money and turned it down. He hadn’t shown much to warrant anything more in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that is there?
Bobledgersheart Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: He was offered a deal on the same money and turned it down. He hadn’t shown much to warrant anything more in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that is there? Yes you'd really have to be looking for sticks to see that as one !
Shrek Posted September 15, 2023 Author Posted September 15, 2023 40 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: He was offered a deal on the same money and turned it down. He hadn’t shown much to warrant anything more in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that is there? The intentions behind it are a little different. It wasn't an offer the club felt he would accept or indeed i believe wanted him to accept. It's the same wage as his initial pro deal. That will be a pittance.
nzlatic Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Shrek said: The intentions behind it are a little different. It wasn't an offer the club felt he would accept or indeed i believe wanted him to accept. It's the same wage as his initial pro deal. That will be a pittance. Is the potential compensation we'd be due stopping him getting another club?
Lags Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Shrek said: The intentions behind it are a little different. It wasn't an offer the club felt he would accept or indeed i believe wanted him to accept. It's the same wage as his initial pro deal. That will be a pittance. It's all the club had to offer or indeed what Junior warranted. It's pro football.
Londonboy Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Shrek said: The intentions behind it are a little different. It wasn't an offer the club felt he would accept or indeed i believe wanted him to accept. It's the same wage as his initial pro deal. That will be a pittance. IT'S BECAUSE HE WASNT GOOD ENOUGH FFS!! What is it your moaning about
Shrek Posted September 15, 2023 Author Posted September 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, nzlatic said: Is the potential compensation we'd be due stopping him getting another club? Someone has worked it out. 20 year old kid. Poor in my view.
nzlatic Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Shrek said: Someone has worked it out. 20 year old kid. Poor in my view. I meant has it actually happened? Another club wants to actually sign him but can't because of the compensation? Or are you theorising?
Dave_Og Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, Shrek said: Someone has worked it out. 20 year old kid. Poor in my view. We've invested in his potential. If someone else gets the benefit then us being compensated it seems fair to me. It's not as if we're demanding a massive transfer fee!
mcfluff1985 Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Shrek said: As he's one of our youth products, one of our own, I find it disgusting the way we've treated him. He had, still has, plenty of potential. Hasn't worked out for him, really shame really. We've no intention of keeping him apparently, I believe our offer is around the same as his deal signed last time, straight off a youth. This then traps him as any club signing him owes compo. Unless there has been an update I've missed that still remains. Poor form from us IMO. 2 hours ago, Shrek said: The intentions behind it are a little different. It wasn't an offer the club felt he would accept or indeed i believe wanted him to accept. It's the same wage as his initial pro deal. That will be a pittance. Good business. Pipe down
Pidge Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Shrek said: The intentions behind it are a little different. It wasn't an offer the club felt he would accept or indeed i believe wanted him to accept. It's the same wage as his initial pro deal. That will be a pittance. You are assuming a lot there about what intentions were.
Lukers1 Posted September 16, 2023 Posted September 16, 2023 Drop down the league, get some qualifications and be a semi pro….
Stainrod Posted September 16, 2023 Posted September 16, 2023 If he couldn’t establish himself in a team dropping down the leagues then unfortunately for him he’s not a good enough footballer in the club’s opinion.
LaticsPete Posted September 16, 2023 Posted September 16, 2023 2 hours ago, oafc1955 said: What like Vaughan? Nothing like Vaughan. Nothing.
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