Dave_Og Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 58 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: Wonder if any of you watched the recent Rugby Union World Cup? What a difference in how the players conduct themselves and their attitude to referees. Christ when I see some of those tackles and compare to how footballers react!!! There are many things that annoy me about Rugby Union but one of them is most certainly their adoption of the moral high ground. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: There are many things that annoy me about Rugby Union but one of them is most certainly their adoption of the moral high ground. You mean because they occupy it compared to footie? Edited October 31, 2023 by whittles left foot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, LightDN123 said: Let’s get on the back of our best player and top goalscorer. Good idea. You just going to ignore everything he does which is leading by example or ? Who's getting on his back. I just don't like grown men behaving like children ( who, incidentally, do grow up to be adults mostly !). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: There are many things that annoy me about Rugby Union but one of them is most certainly their adoption of the moral high ground. It’s the whole rugby players don’t react like that when they get tackled argument that gets me. Of course they don’t, there is no benefit for them to pretend to be hurt when they get tackled. Football players do it to win fouls or to ensure they get the foul (if you agree with it or not). Also, rugby fans are no better than any football fans. Spoken from multiple experiences when going to Cardiff for six nations. Don’t even get me started on the weird male rugby banter. Bloody strange people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: You mean because they occupy it compared to footie? There's a very fair point in relation to attitude to refs but they also bang on about how honest it is and how much footballers cheat. In the same sentence they'll take pride in the 'dark arts' of rugby- which in any other language are cheating. Wouldn't cross the road to watch it Edited October 31, 2023 by Dave_Og Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 It probably is fair to say that Rugby Union players are generally better at influencing the ref and it is done in a respectful way. It's wrong to say they don't exaggerate perceived foul play to win penalties, they clearly do. But they definitely don't spit their dummy and subject referee's to foul mouthed tirades like you see (and hear) in football, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 37 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: It’s the whole rugby players don’t react like that when they get tackled argument that gets me. i wouldn't highlight that part of it. For me it is their reaction to decisions-I only watch international rugby but what struck me is how they just get on with the game no matter how controversial or important the decision is. None of this surrounding the ref, contesting decisions or pleading innocence we have to put up with in footie. What tees me off in football is punditry that refuses to acknowledge blatant cheating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: i wouldn't highlight that part of it. For me it is their reaction to decisions-I only watch international rugby but what struck me is how they just get on with the game no matter how controversial or important the decision is. None of this surrounding the ref, contesting decisions or pleading innocence we have to put up with in footie. What tees me off in football is punditry that refuses to acknowledge blatant cheating. Don’t rugby union referees wear mics which are connected to what gets broadcasted ? Hence we can hear the ref when they are explaining a penalty in rugby to the players. That would naturally put them all off abusing the ref. I struggle to believe that the population of rugby players as a whole are more respectful than the population of footballers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 We don't need to bootlick rugby union players because they went to private schools. The end of the South Africa England game shows that when emotions are high people will act without thinking. Rugby players don't pretend to be injured, no but they stamp on other players and stick their fingers up their arses to gain an advantage. People will do whatever they can do to win. You need competent referees to stop them from doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, whittles left foot said: i wouldn't highlight that part of it. For me it is their reaction to decisions-I only watch international rugby but what struck me is how they just get on with the game no matter how controversial or important the decision is. None of this surrounding the ref, contesting decisions or pleading innocence we have to put up with in footie. What tees me off in football is punditry that refuses to acknowledge blatant cheating. Isn't there a rule that if they argue with the ref then the penalty gets moved forward 10 yards? Think this happened in an England game where it put the kick for the opposition in range. Don't see why that can't be introduced in football. Would probably get similar results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts2 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, nzlatic said: Isn't there a rule that if they argue with the ref then the penalty gets moved forward 10 yards? Think this happened in an England game where it put the kick for the opposition in range. Don't see why that can't be introduced in football. Would probably get similar results. It was several seasons ago then quietly dropped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanGrovesFanClub Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, peanuts2 said: It was several seasons ago then quietly dropped Nope, nzlatic is right, this happened very recently in first half of the semi final between England and SA when Owen Farrell said something to the ref, the ref moved it forwards 10m and they kicked it for 3 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, AlanGrovesFanClub said: Nope, nzlatic is right, this happened very recently in first half of the semi final between England and SA when Owen Farrell said something to the ref, the ref moved it forwards 10m and they kicked it for 3 points. Thanks, that's the incident I was thinking of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, LightDN123 said: Don’t rugby union referees wear mics which are connected to what gets broadcasted ? Hence we can hear the ref when they are explaining a penalty in rugby to the players. That would naturally put them all off abusing the ref. I struggle to believe that the population of rugby players as a whole are more respectful than the population of footballers. I would be happy to see that trialled in the PL-don't think it would make a damn bit of difference to them. Self opinionated cheats the lot of them.(not just the PL). As for your last point-well I watched several of the world cup games and the difference between the 2 sports is remarkable. Anyway enough of this on the Norwood thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Got to love these thread deviations, from James Norwood to fingers up arses on a rugby pitch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, AlanGrovesFanClub said: Nope, nzlatic is right, this happened very recently in first half of the semi final between England and SA when Owen Farrell said something to the ref, the ref moved it forwards 10m and they kicked it for 3 points. 56 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: I would be happy to see that trialled in the PL-don't think it would make a damn bit of difference to them. Self opinionated cheats the lot of them.(not just the PL). As for your last point-well I watched several of the world cup games and the difference between the 2 sports is remarkable. Anyway enough of this on the Norwood thread. Already been trialled in football moving it forwards ten yards. Changed nowt. Got binned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, peanuts2 said: It was several seasons ago then quietly dropped 1 hour ago, AlanGrovesFanClub said: Nope, nzlatic is right, this happened very recently in first half of the semi final between England and SA when Owen Farrell said something to the ref, the ref moved it forwards 10m and they kicked it for 3 points. 52 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: I would be happy to see that trialled in the PL-don't think it would make a damn bit of difference to them. Self opinionated cheats the lot of them.(not just the PL). As for your last point-well I watched several of the world cup games and the difference between the 2 sports is remarkable. Anyway enough of this on the Norwood thread. @peanuts2's point was that a 10 yard penalty for backchat was adopted in football in a lower level competition, possibly the Anglo-Italian Cup or the EFL trophy, currently sponsored by a Pizza company. It was then quietly dropped. I'm fairly certain I saw the rule enforced at Boundary Park at least once. It didn't last long possibly because there was only a maximum 10 yard penalty, unlike in Rugby where the penalty can continue to be enforced. Also I don't think a 10 yard difference 60 yards from goal makes that much of a difference in football but it does in Rugby. Personally I think referees should be given the freedom to leave games abandoned due to 7 men and with subsequent points deductions for continued disrespect. Shame it didn't happen on Sunday in Trafford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 hours ago, Bobledgersheart said: Who's getting on his back. I just don't like grown men behaving like children ( who, incidentally, do grow up to be adults mostly !). I think it's called adolescent regression Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, L1onheartNew said: I think it's called adolescent regression Or "once a dick always a dick!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bobledgersheart said: Or "once a dick always a dick!". Wasn't that a George Michael quote? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, L1onheartNew said: Wasn't that a George Michael quote? No think his was "want a dick always a dick". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 6 hours ago, Dave_Og said: There are many things that annoy me about Rugby Union but one of them is most certainly their adoption of the moral high ground. Nobody actually enjoys Rugby Union. They just pretend to to feel superior to football fans. It's all they ever go on about Dreadful sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts2 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 hours ago, AlanGrovesFanClub said: Nope, nzlatic is right, this happened very recently in first half of the semi final between England and SA when Owen Farrell said something to the ref, the ref moved it forwards 10m and they kicked it for 3 points. It was introduced in football in 2000 as an experiment for dissent at free kicks kick could be moved 10 yards and card issued 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: Nobody actually enjoys Rugby Union. They just pretend to to feel superior to football fans. It's all they ever go on about Dreadful sport. No skill involved in rugby. Not the same as in football. Boring sport played by weirdos (who could all knock me out) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Did Norwood get carded for dissent on Saturday then? There was a moment where Alty players surrounded the ref after they got given a free kick but ref did nothing so I thought they'd relaxed that rule. It was completely opposite to how Kitching was dealt with against York (I think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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