sjk2008 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I’m not Hogan’s biggest fan, but when you see how Hobson has played this season and Raglan at times, at least Hogan looks to play it a bit whereas those two just seem to go route one. Absolutely no issue having him here one more season, but absolutely not as a starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyyou Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 16 minutes ago, sjk2008 said: I’m not Hogan’s biggest fan, but when you see how Hobson has played this season and Raglan at times, at least Hogan looks to play it a bit whereas those two just seem to go route one. Absolutely no issue having him here one more season, but absolutely not as a starter. Have a feeling that McGahey and Gardner will get 12 months. MM seems to like their attitude. Maybe not regular starters in future but as squad men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 19 hours ago, Boyyou said: Have a feeling that McGahey and Gardner will get 12 months. MM seems to like their attitude. Maybe not regular starters in future but as squad men. Gardner has shown that he is comfortably our best midfielder in the last few games. Now that could be because he's out-of-contract Dan so has upped his game. I can see him being offered another year, but with pay skewed towards him playing. So a reduced basic wage but a playing bonus that significantly increases his salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, rudemedic said: Gardner has shown that he is comfortably our best midfielder in the last few games. Now that could be because he's out-of-contract Dan so has upped his game. I can see him being offered another year, but with pay skewed towards him playing. So a reduced basic wage but a playing bonus that significantly increases his salary. I’ll be amazed if he’s offered any sort of deal. Massive squad issues this season and MM will surely release everyone he possibly can to try and free up wages for his own squad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyyou Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 28 minutes ago, daniel said: I’ll be amazed if he’s offered any sort of deal. Massive squad issues this season and MM will surely release everyone he possibly can to try and free up wages for his own squad. Big change undoubtedly needed but he may not be able to do it all in one transfer window. Depends who is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Id keep him if money was infinite, easily out best player on the ball. But it isn’t and he’s old and injury prone so got to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 26 minutes ago, latics22 said: Id keep him if money was infinite, easily out best player on the ball. But it isn’t and he’s old and injury prone so got to go. 34yo old on Friday. Joe Garner 36 a week later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, BP1960 said: 34yo old on Friday. Joe Garner 36 a week later. Can’t offer Gardner another deal with his fitness issues surely? I have to question whether we even needed Garner, the money should have been saved or spent on a RB or another midfielder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 9 hours ago, oafc1955 said: Can’t offer Gardner another deal with his fitness issues surely? I have to question whether we even needed Garner, the money should have been saved or spent on a RB or another midfielder. Do we really know what Gardners injury is and can it be treated with a 3 months pre season break? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 26 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Do we really know what Gardners injury is and can it be treated with a 3 months pre season break? He’s our best midfield player by a mile, always said he has been, but it’s time for him to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, BP1960 said: Do we really know what Gardners injury is and can it be treated with a 3 months pre season break? He's had plenty of breaks mid season the last few years without curing the problem(s). He is a decent midfielder when fit but can't be relied on. Best he can hope for is a "pay as you play" deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 29 minutes ago, Bobledgersheart said: He's had plenty of breaks mid season the last few years without curing the problem(s). He is a decent midfielder when fit but can't be relied on. Best he can hope for is a "pay as you play" deal. Yes, I wonder what his long standing injury problem is though that he's put up with for years now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 17 hours ago, oafc1955 said: I have to question whether we even needed Garner, the money should have been saved or spent on a RB or another midfielder. He came in very useful during the period Norwood was out with a hamstring injury so I'd suggest he was needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 46 minutes ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said: He came in very useful during the period Norwood was out with a hamstring injury so I'd suggest he was needed. But we haven’t made the playoffs so perhaps we could have used the money elsewhere. An 18 month deal for a 36 year old who doesn’t look too mobile and spends a lot of his time on his arse seems poor value to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 4 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: But we haven’t made the playoffs so perhaps we could have used the money elsewhere. An 18 month deal for a 36 year old who doesn’t look too mobile and spends a lot of his time on his arse seems poor value to me! I think we need to let this one play out. I was only correcting your opinion that a centre forward was needed in January and Norwood's six week hamstring layoff proved it. The staff would have suspected this was a likelihood particularly when it came out that Norwood would have missed the Eastleigh match if it passed the pitch inspection in January. If we'd have used the money elsewhere we'd have had Fondop and, er, Hope up front for those matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 16 minutes ago, Frankly Mr Shankly said: I think we need to let this one play out. I was only correcting your opinion that a centre forward was needed in January and Norwood's six week hamstring layoff proved it. The staff would have suspected this was a likelihood particularly when it came out that Norwood would have missed the Eastleigh match if it passed the pitch inspection in January. If we'd have used the money elsewhere we'd have had Fondop and, er, Hope up front for those matches. Maybe so but surely a loan signing would have been better than giving a near 36 year old an 18 month deal? He’ll be on a good contract no doubt and if Norwood were to leave would you really want him as your main striker next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I like the "edge" that Garner gives us, it's something we have been missing for a while, my only criticism would be is that he overplays it a bit too much, there is a fine line somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, disjointed said: I like the "edge" that Garner gives us, it's something we have been missing for a while, my only criticism would be is that he overplays it a bit too much, there is a fine line somewhere. I was really pleased when I heard we'd signed him, Yes, I'm blinkered from seeing what a top striker he was for PNE but even now, I still think he's got plenty to offer at this level or the one above. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, disjointed said: I like the "edge" that Garner gives us, it's something we have been missing for a while, my only criticism would be is that he overplays it a bit too much, there is a fine line somewhere. I think he has been another shocking signing. Perfect example of giving an aging player too long a contract and boy have we had/got plenty of these. Looking forward to him passing to a blue shirt some time in the future(next year unfortunately) cos he ain't done it so far. He could fall off the'edge' tomorrow as far as I am concerned. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/2024/april/09042024-hogan-community-award/ Congratulations to Liam Hogan - well deserved from what I read. interesting snippet from the article: “Liam has been a real leader when it comes to our community projects, he’s made our lives so much easier by being so accommodating and up for helping out.“ Let’s see more of that leadership on the pitch please 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 47 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: https://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/2024/april/09042024-hogan-community-award/ Congratulations to Liam Hogan - well deserved from what I read. interesting snippet from the article: “Liam has been a real leader when it comes to our community projects, he’s made our lives so much easier by being so accommodating and up for helping out.“ Let’s see more of that leadership on the pitch please Does he have ambitions to get into coaching/management do we know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 33 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Does he have ambitions to get into coaching/management do we know? Or punditry even? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradKnowles1 Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 Anyone catch what Hogan said on TNT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKing521 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, BradKnowles1 said: Anyone catch what Hogan said on TNT Matt Smith: 'I guess Liam, as much as we're delighted to have your company, slightly bittersweet for you. I imagine you'd rather be out there with your boots on!' Liam Hogan: 'It's massively painful, It's still now heightened in and around the club and in the dressing room' 'We were in there and we let it slide, by quite a lot' 'For us now there will be a lot of repairs over the summer so that going forward we can go for promotion' 'We're looking and thinking that there shouldn't have been 7 better sides than us this season - but that wasn't the case and we will now look for the answers' 'It's important to bridge the gap between the players and supporters to make sure that we can achieve promotion' 'We need to be better and take a look at ourselves ahead of the summer' This is a v rough transcript. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB2 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, GKing521 said: Matt Smith: 'I guess Liam, as much as we're delighted to have your company, slightly bittersweet for you. I imagine you'd rather be out there with your boots on!' Liam Hogan: 'It's massively painful, It's still now heightened in and around the club and in the dressing room' 'We were in there and we let it slide, by quite a lot' 'For us now there will be a lot of repairs over the summer so that going forward we can go for promotion' 'We're looking and thinking that there shouldn't have been 7 better sides than us this season - but that wasn't the case and we will now look for the answers' 'It's important to bridge the gap between the players and supporters to make sure that we can achieve promotion' 'We need to be better and take a look at ourselves ahead of the summer' This is a v rough transcript. Words are meaningless. He and every single player can fuck off. I am not ready to be reflective 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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