yarddog73 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Me neither, whats a few more weeks, its not as though the season tickets cost more in there, you all have your seats reserved, patience. Being patient with regards a fourth stand is something our fans have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I'd rather we have the commercial stuff sorted first because that's the money maker. There are further 6500 seats to choose from in the ground to watch the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I'm going with the radical prediction that: 1) The turnstiles, seats, toilets and refreshments will all be operational by the first league game. 2) Everything else will fall into place between now and the start of December. 3) People will moan regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I agree with Mr 4U. A lot of the commercial stuff won't necessarily be needed on day 1 of the football season and wouldn't be great while there's still work going on. I'll be very surprised if there aren't fans in there fairly soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollandspies Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I have been told via a reliable source (construction contacts rather than the club itself) that the main headache now is the complexity surrounding the routing and physical installation of a pretty major utility......Electricity. Something to do with the location of the sub station which is close to the Chaddy and those new builds, and the difficulty and time it will take to complete this work. It's apparently a logistical nightmare as the circumstances are unique to the chosen power provider / installer; they have to seek permissions from several authorities before the work can even commence. I'm no expert, but I feel I was certainly in conversation with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I have been told via a reliable source (construction contacts rather than the club itself) that the main headache now is the complexity surrounding the routing and physical installation of a pretty major utility......Electricity. Something to do with the location of the sub station which is close to the Chaddy and those new builds, and the difficulty and time it will take to complete this work. It's apparently a logistical nightmare as the circumstances are unique to the chosen power provider / installer; they have to seek permissions from several authorities before the work can even commence. I'm no expert, but I feel I was certainly in conversation with one. Grand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCKeepTheFaith Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I agree with Mr 4U. A lot of the commercial stuff won't necessarily be needed on day 1 of the football season and wouldn't be great while there's still work going on. I'll be very surprised if there aren't fans in there fairly soon The boxes and associated back-of-house facilities are important for Day 1 as are big earners for club and I can't see these being ready going off the recent photographs and speed of progress to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 The boxes and associated back-of-house facilities are important for Day 1 as are big earners for club and I can't see these being ready going off the recent photographs and speed of progress to date. It'll take no more than a week to install the seats. I am not aware of any pictures showing internal progress relating to fans using the ground on match day (the upstairs bar excepted). A pie warmer, the electrical issues above aside, is easy enough to plug in, along with TV's etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCKeepTheFaith Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 It'll take no more than a week to install the seats. I am not aware of any pictures showing internal progress relating to fans using the ground on match day (the upstairs bar excepted). A pie warmer, the electrical issues above aside, is easy enough to plug in, along with TV's etc. The last pictures I saw of internals showed nothing more than what looked like rainwater pipe work; with partitioning yet to commence. If this is still case then boxes will not be ready for first game. Like I said above seating plus facilities seems doable with a concerted effort but boxes plus facilities doesn't. Even seating plus facilities is reliant on water and power and it shouldn't be underestimated how much work is involved with this - the seats are the easy bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Have you seen how quickly commercial building are erected and then second and third fits are completed? The internal work could be completed with 6-8 weeks solid. 7 weeks until season starts but just under 8 for first home game. Terrace seats will be in and wouldn't surprise if boxes are ready to accommodate with catering shipped in behind scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw65 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I have been told via a reliable source (construction contacts rather than the club itself) that the main headache now is the complexity surrounding the routing and physical installation of a pretty major utility......Electricity. Something to do with the location of the sub station which is close to the Chaddy and those new builds, and the difficulty and time it will take to complete this work. It's apparently a logistical nightmare as the circumstances are unique to the chosen power provider / installer; they have to seek permissions from several authorities before the work can even commence. I'm no expert, but I feel I was certainly in conversation with one. Would you not have thought this would have been thought of and completed months ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 We must have more construction experts per head amongst our support than any other football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw65 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 We must have more construction experts per head amongst our support than any other football club. I'm certainly no construction expert, but I do have a little common sense!! If you want something to be finished by a certain date, you place orders to fit in with that date - maybe you do things differently.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCKeepTheFaith Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 We must have more construction experts per head amongst our support than any other football club. There will be many on here who, like myself, work in construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Correct the imminent fit-out phase is generally the most time consuming due to interdependencies between the various subcontractors (M&E, ceilings and partitions, flooring, decoration etc). For fit-out you need to be substantially watertight and from the progress photographs I've seen recently this isn't yet the case. Following fit-out you have the testing and commissioning phase, and then handover phase including obtaining necessary approvals from Building Control, Fire Officer etc. Going off progress speed to date then even the club-occupied areas of the stand are months away from being complete. Hopefully club and contractor came to this conclusion weeks ago and have reprogrammed into phases so areas can be handed over / occupied separately on beneficial occupation basis. There will be many on here who, like myself, work in construction. My money was on you working in the jargon industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCKeepTheFaith Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 My money was on you working in the jargon industry. Haha I'm a Project Manager for a construction firm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I'm certainly no construction expert, but I do have a little common sense!! If you want something to be finished by a certain date, you place orders to fit in with that date - maybe you do things differently.. Also, maybe, we have placed those orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Haha I'm a Project Manager for a construction firm.There's only one Project Manager but it has a thousand faces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I have been told via a reliable source (construction contacts rather than the club itself) that the main headache now is the complexity surrounding the routing and physical installation of a pretty major utility......Electricity. Something to do with the location of the sub station which is close to the Chaddy and those new builds, and the difficulty and time it will take to complete this work. It's apparently a logistical nightmare as the circumstances are unique to the chosen power provider / installer; they have to seek permissions from several authorities before the work can even commence. I'm no expert, but I feel I was certainly in conversation with one. How did they manage for electricity in the Lookers stand and the prefabricated boxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I used to have a Meccano set. Does that make me a construction expert? Patience chaps and chapesses. It will be worth the wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw65 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Also, maybe, we have placed those orders. As I have previously stated, the services order was placed last week.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Is there a horse called Jumping to Conclusions running this week...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 As I have previously stated, the services order was placed last week.. HP, Daddys, Heinz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Is there a horse called Jumping to Conclusions running this week...? Ran last week, didn't get over the first hurdle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 As I have previously stated, the services order was placed last week.. For the sub station which is being installed today? Seems like perfect planning using JIT methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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