Hometownclub Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Good that the club have made a statement, to stop the rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Why would he not be interested? Could be his last chance at getting a big job. A 'big job' with a club in league 1 with a very questionable ownership situation and finances that are worse than any other team in league 1? Bolton is still on a knife-edge imo, still losing £1m a month, income will now be reduced by £5m (elegation) per annum and taking on lots of REAL debts secured against the club unlike the previous owner debt. Having looked at the people involved and the financial situation put in place, do not be surprised to see it all unravel again and quite quickly. If Bolton dont get promoted.... they are royally :censored:ed. Even some Bolton fans are VERY dubious: As a recap, SS were to put £7.5m in this season and another £15 in for next. Anderson confirmed that just him and Holdsworth are the equity partners, in other words, the guys putting money into the club. I understand that from the £7.5m, £5m is from Holdsworth and £2.5 by Anderson and that this money will come from high interest investor loans taken out against the clubs remaining assets. So far Holdsworth seems to have met his end of the bargain but there is no evidence to suggest that Anderson has put a single penny in at this point. It gets worse. Whilst Davies wiped £170m debt, that debt wasn't gaining interest. The remaining debt that we know of is currently as follows: £15m owed to Eddie Davies over 5 years £5.85 owed to PBP for the car park redevelopment work project. £5m owed to Bluemarble Capital Ltd, assumed to be via Holdsworth. £2.5m owed to Brett Warburton £1m owed to Eddie Davies over 2 years Then there's the £2.5m that will be owed to Andersons investors when the money finally goes in. All the above is charged against the clubs assets. In other words we have a number of high interest mortgages. There is also no evidence so far of money going into the club that hasn't been raised by mortgaging the assets. So whilst the debt is a 'mere' £30m as opposed to £200m, it involves high interest loans for a club that has lost £5m income due to relegation and is losing close to £1 m a month in running costs! Essentially Anderson needs all his future plans to meet their best expectations for the club to continue to survive. Hence the Lennon analogy that despite best intentions, if things outside your control that you need to happen, don't, then you're in a world of :censored:, probably demanding skills you don't possess. Edited April 25, 2016 by kowenicki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Big ':censored: off' to Bolton this. http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-3079792.aspx Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Surely a strong second half of the season from Latics and a timely statement from the club that actually says something are two of the signs of the apocalypse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Big ':censored: off' to Bolton this. http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-3079792.aspx Most of that was copy and pasted from Newport's site. So Tuesday morning comes... "We wish to thank John for guiding us to safety and wish him every success at the Maracana, I mean Macarena, I mean Macaroon!" Seriously, a non event which our hysteria based on one or two people speculating creating a drop in odds has helped give this story legs. Wilder, Stubbs and Brown are the final three apparently. Edited April 25, 2016 by L1onheartNew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Big ':censored: off' to Bolton this. http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-3079792.aspx Excellent news... Well done to the club for a strong statement early doors too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Surely we should at least try to keep our fish? He's becoming a Dab hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Big ':censored: off' to Bolton this. http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-3079792.aspx Excellent the club has given us it's standpoint. I still like to see the same from Shez now to put it well and truly to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davegtt Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Loving todays statement but I know Oldham all too well, money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 If Shez goes then fair play to him. I thought we were dead and buried when he came in, the fact that he's kept us up is remarkable. If he goes, good luck. I can't hold it against the guy. Let's just hope we replace him with another proven manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozman Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Really, all that the statement means is that there has been no approach yet and they would prefer it if there wasn't one. It doesn't mean there won't be one and they won't be put under pressure to allow him to talk to them. However, reading what Kowenicki has posted above, and add to that the fact they're under a transfer embargo, I'm not sue why any manager who already has a safe job in the same division would want to give it up to take that job on. Brown included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 It simply isn't worth the money to lose Shez. Whatever compensation we got would be offset by the number of fans we'd lose. Not to mention the priceless identity he gives the club, which had been lost for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Jesus, you lot are worse than my wife!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Jesus, you lot are worse than my wife!!! Is she always speculating as to Shez's future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) It's unlikely Bolton will appoint someone before the transfer embargo is lifted on them it will drag out from their point of view for a few months. Which is enough time for Phil Brown to engineer his exit from Southend. Edited April 25, 2016 by GlossopLatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Jesus, you lot are worse than my wife!!! I once played an 11-a-side game against a team who had a centre half - who persistently fouled me when I received the ball. After complaining to the ref a couple of times that I was getting no decisions go my way, he shouted towards me "Oi, 9, you whinge like my missus"..... I replied, "Yeah? I bet I look like her n'all"....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I once played an 11-a-side game against a team who had a centre half - who persistently fouled me when I received the ball. After complaining to the ref a couple of times that I was getting no decisions go my way, he shouted towards me "Oi, 9, you whinge like my missus"..... I replied, "Yeah? I bet I look like her n'all"....! #Thuglife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 #Thuglife I'm a 6'2" pale ginger beanpole who ain't no oil painting. It was offensive enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetramfixer Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I'm thinking more along the lines of how he sees Bolton .. does he see them as another Blackpool? ie dropped down to L1 and then (I know it's not sorted yet but as good as) dropped straight into L2 the season after. Could Boltons money problems caused this to also happen? That said there's nothing guarantee we won't suffer a similarly :censored: season as we've had this time around. At least he's in the hot seat and in control for the close season and it's comings and goings. I think if he was to leave us, it's not ambition or anything like that .. it'll be one or two things .. 1 .. the wage they're prepared to pay him 2 .. the financial problems that 'could' be bubbling away here at Oldham either way I wouldn't blame him .. BUT I would like to think he wants to take us to a similar lofty place in the league he did last time if not better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I'm a 6'2" pale ginger beanpole who ain't no oil painting. It was offensive enough. It was a good response! I'll save that one away incase I have to use it sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Times like this when we need the trust to put fans opinions across to corney etc. I have already seen loads of post on Twitter saying ST will be returned if shez leaves. Just as the feel good factor returns could be gone as quick. Stop selling our sole corney!!He's not a shoe-in.. Edited April 25, 2016 by singe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Well, point to the club all you want. If he wants to go, he'll go. You can't blame SC. It's up to Shez. Can you imagine if SC blocks it? I mean, really? Shez: I want to go to Bolton. SC: No way. Shez: tough i'm going. You can :censored: off. SC: No. You can :censored: off. Shez: Daz, come in. You tell him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 ..then again: Shez: I'll stay if you give me a million extra for the playing budget. SC: Do you want a lift to Bolton? I'll just get the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Sheridan has moved to favourite for the job on SkyBet, so much for the club statement putting an end to it! Hopefully it's just the bookie protecting his money after a few quid's been placed on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Is she always speculating as to Shez's future? Yes, all the time. She thought he was mad to leave Babylon 5 for Oldham. "He's got rocks in his head!" She said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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