Magic Mikey Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: We should release a statement saying there will be a statement on any news once any said news is known. Anything else just isn’t good enough. They should be letting us know when they're going to release this statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owdumer Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Or a statement that there isn't anything to make a statement about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, owdumer said: Or a statement that there isn't anything to make a statement about. I thought Mike Keegan offered that service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 11 hours ago, singe said: I always take a keen interest in your take of a story. One thing that concerns me, as your sources more concerned than when Corney was in charge or that it's just a continuation? I don't think they are either more nor less concerned than when Corney was here. AL got a lot of people's back up almost immediately after appearing on the scene by bringing a lot of his "players" in - he brought a lot more in for training than the ones we have seen signed. But they were more than happy to see the back of Corney... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 50 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: I don't think they are either more nor less concerned than when Corney was here. AL got a lot of people's back up almost immediately after appearing on the scene by bringing a lot of his "players" in - he brought a lot more in for training than the ones we have seen signed. But they were more than happy to see the back of Corney... Cheers. It would be fair to say then, that if AL interferes less then things might stabilise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, singe said: Cheers. It would be fair to say then, that if AL interferes less then things might stabilise? It's a shame he didn't realise this earlier. We might still be in Division One.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, JoeP said: It's a shame he didn't realise this earlier. We might still be in Division One.. I think others had a major hand in it too.... Be interesting to analyse the Jan window, I reckon he might have realised by then. Doyle, Byrne, Bryan, Green & Ollie Banks were all down to Wellens (and the budget), Moimbe yes albeit a mixed bag from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, singe said: I think others had a major hand in it too.... Be interesting to analyse the Jan window, I reckon he might have realised by then. Doyle, Byrne, Bryan, Green & Ollie Banks were all down to Wellens (and the budget), Moimbe yes albeit a mixed bag from him. Byrne was as much a Lemsagam signing as Moimbe was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, JoeP said: It's a shame he didn't realise this earlier. We might still be in Division One.. We’d be in league 1 if lots of things hadn’t happened. His ‘interference’ isn’t even in the top 10 for me. Moimbe pen is number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 minute ago, kowenicki said: We’d be in league 1 if lots of things hadn’t happened. His ‘interference’ isn’t even in the top 10 for me. Moimbe pen is number 1. Surely #2 after Wellens being shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott said: I don't think they are either more nor less concerned than when Corney was here. AL got a lot of people's back up almost immediately after appearing on the scene by bringing a lot of his "players" in - he brought a lot more in for training than the ones we have seen signed. But they were more than happy to see the back of Corney... Hence the reason Shez spat his dummy out, Shez had a list of players who he thought would see us challenge but AL had other ideas and forced his own players onto Shez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, kowenicki said: We’d be in league 1 if lots of things hadn’t happened. His ‘interference’ isn’t even in the top 10 for me. Moimbe pen is number 1. That surprises me. Someone buying any club and throwing their weight around thinking they know better than the manager is up there as one of the more perfect recipes for disaster, in my opinion.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, JoeP said: That surprises me. Someone buying any club and throwing their weight around thinking they know better than the manager is up there as one of the more perfect recipes for disaster, in my opinion.. Despite his alleged ‘interference’, if Moimbe keeps his hands to himself... we are in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Despite his alleged ‘interference’, if Moimbe keeps his hands to himself... we are in league 1. True but where should we have been if Shez or Wellens were left alone to manage the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, kowenicki said: Despite his alleged ‘interference’, if Moimbe keeps his hands to himself... we are in league 1. We were relegated by 1 point (and 9 goals). I can take you back to August and September to find you the missing point (s). If you go back through the season I can probably find enough points with just simple things that we would have been safe by the time Moimbe gave away the last minute penalty. If Moimbe doesn't give away the penalty we end up safe but the season is 46 games not just the last 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, rudemedic said: We were relegated by 1 point (and 9 goals). I can take you back to August and September to find you the missing point (s). If you go back through the season I can probably find enough points with just simple things that we would have been safe by the time Moimbe gave away the last minute penalty. If Moimbe doesn't give away the penalty we end up safe but the season is 46 games not just the last 6. One mistake means the times he saved us points have been forgotten it appears. I remember him clearing a good few off the line in a few games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 7 hours ago, mcfluff1985 said: One mistake means the times he saved us points have been forgotten it appears. I remember him clearing a good few off the line in a few games This is a good point. People can at times have a one sided view of players' contributions. Particularly with strikers, "Where would we have been without X's goals?" It's as if whoever was playing instead wouldn't have scored anything. Having said that, Moimbe's brain fart was unprofessional and unforgivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 9 hours ago, rudemedic said: We were relegated by 1 point (and 9 goals). I can take you back to August and September to find you the missing point (s). If you go back through the season I can probably find enough points with just simple things that we would have been safe by the time Moimbe gave away the last minute penalty. If Moimbe doesn't give away the penalty we end up safe but the season is 46 games not just the last 6. That’s my point really. It was in the players hands. This interference story is a distraction. There was enough in the team to avoid relegation as proven by some good results s a fine run after Shez left. LOTS of missed chances and a few inexplicable actions sent us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 A shit defence, which was apparent from day 1, without any action being taken, sent us down. it is absurd to pin the blame on single incidences. Let offs, silly mistakes and missed opportunities even out. we went down cos we had a leaky defence. End of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworthlatic Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 10 hours ago, rudemedic said: We were relegated by 1 point (and 9 goals). I can take you back to August and September to find you the missing point (s). If you go back through the season I can probably find enough points with just simple things that we would have been safe by the time Moimbe gave away the last minute penalty. If Moimbe doesn't give away the penalty we end up safe but the season is 46 games not just the last 6. There’s a variety of reasons why we got relegated. Ultimately apart from a two month spell where we were good (very good) we didn’t do enough to stay in the division over 46 games. You could strip it right back to the summer when Shez waited and waited and waited for Ripley to return. Sure, I would have waited maybe until mid July but not until the last week of pre-season. You could look at having 3 subs on the bench at Blackpool, still don’t know why that happened? You could look at the Fane sending off at home to Charlton (never a red card), you could look at Edmundson’s stupid tackle at Fleetwood in the last minute to cost us 2 points (just like Moimbe did), you could look at the takeover disrupting clubs like it generally does, creating uncertainty around the club. Then there’s the French Lads that he brought over, Doyle missing a bagful of chances v Walsall. There’s a whole host of reasons, so to put the blame or a proportion of the blame at Moimbe’s door is slightly narrow-minded considering a season lasts for 46 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlatic Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 No point picking over the bones of relegation the pure undeniable fact is , over a 46 game season we simply weren’t consistently good enough to stay up , how we react to life in the bottom division is crucial now ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I know it's intangible, but I really do believe that the club missed the reassuring presence of Big Gordy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fervid Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 It’s all ifs and buts, in reality we have been dicing with relegation for years and it’s no surprise to me to find us in league two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 12 hours ago, kowenicki said: Despite his alleged ‘interference’, if Moimbe keeps his hands to himself... we are in league 1. The butterfly effect/chaos theory says not necessarily...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: The butterfly effect/chaos theory says not necessarily...... are you saying if I hadn't gone to the games we might have stayed up.... or if I'd gone for a piss and shouted "come on lads" at the opportune time as I walked down the sideline we might have stayed up.... Just more fuel to my argument that this interference thing is a red herring and, frankly, an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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