oafc1955 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 We simply have to kick on from that result yesterday, if we can win our next two home games, Hartlepool & Barrow, it would put us comfortably mid table and everyone could calm down a little. However, lose them both and we could have a real battle on our hands. If we dropped into the National League, under the same ownership, I think mere survival would be a mammoth task! On the other hand if we were rid of the ’s and under new ownership, what level of attendance would we command and do we think we could bounce back quickly? Looking at the teams currently in there it would not be a given. The following are attendances in the National League for their last home games, without factoring in Wrexham who have yet to play a home fixture! Grimsby 5034 Chesterfield 5356 Notts Co 6934 Woking 3078 Stockport 5265 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Happy Sunday to you too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 There's 123 points still to play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankies6 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Onwards and upwards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 The most ridiculous yet regularly used line amongst Oldham fans - ‘if we win the next two games’ And how many times in a season does that happen exactly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 31 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: We simply have to kick on from that result yesterday, if we can win our next two home games, Hartlepool & Barrow, it would put us comfortably mid table and everyone could calm down a little. However, lose them both and we could have a real battle on our hands. If we dropped into the National League, under the same ownership, I think mere survival would be a mammoth task! On the other hand if we were rid of the ’s and under new ownership, what level of attendance would we command and do we think we could bounce back quickly? Looking at the teams currently in there it would not be a given. The following are attendances in the National League for their last home games, without factoring in Wrexham who have yet to play a home fixture! Grimsby 5034 Chesterfield 5356 Notts Co 6934 Woking 3078 Stockport 5265 Home attendances arent dropping any further. Baring a boycott, they have hovered around 3,500 home fans in attendance for several years now. Again, as long as we aren’t boycotting we’d be at that level in tier 5 (or 6 or 7 for that matter). Numbers would go up in tier 5 under stable owners and with a promotion push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, Andy b said: Home attendances arent dropping any further. Baring a boycott, they have hovered around 3,500 home fans in attendance for several years now. Again, as long as we aren’t boycotting we’d be at that level in tier 5 (or 6 or 7 for that matter). Numbers would go up in tier 5 under stable owners and with a promotion push. Some much larger crowds in the National league yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Some much larger crowds in the National league yesterday. We’d be upper middling in tier 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Watching my second National League game. Wrexham have sold over 5k season tickets. Notts County are holding their own. We'd be looking at mid-table at best. Relegation would be a disaster. Pray for the shit teams to start showing themselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, bigfatjoe1 said: Watching my second National League game. Wrexham have sold over 5k season tickets. Notts County are holding their own. We'd be looking at mid-table at best. Relegation would be a disaster. Pray for the shit teams to start showing themselves... We have been saying relegation could be a blessing since 1994 go down again we would never come back IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, bigfatjoe1 said: Watching my second National League game. Wrexham have sold over 5k season tickets. Notts County are holding their own. We'd be looking at mid-table at best. Relegation would be a disaster. Pray for the shit teams to start showing themselves... 2 of them already have, they played each other last Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Bosnian Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 We would go above 5,000 every week easily under the right ownership,potentially 6-7,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Barry Bosnian said: We would go above 5,000 every week easily under the right ownership,potentially 6-7,000. In non league?? where do you get from? We haven’t had that since flirting with the playoffs in 2006-09 and 9,767 against Forest was our nadir we had less under Ritchie in a division above where we are now many of those going then are dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamAthlete Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Chaddyexile84 said: We have been saying relegation could be a blessing since 1994 go down again we would never come back IMO The trap door is well and truly open. Once we go through it we aren't coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Chaddyexile84 said: We have been saying relegation could be a blessing since 1994 go down again we would never come back IMO It's a fallacy that's been following us around for years. Some fans thinks its a reset. Relegation is and always has been a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Barry Bosnian said: We would go above 5,000 every week easily under the right ownership,potentially 6-7,000. You'd hope so, but i'm not so sure. I think it'll take longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Barry Bosnian said: We would go above 5,000 every week easily under the right ownership,potentially 6-7,000. Not a hope in hell. The fan base has been decimated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Chaddyexile84 said: In non league?? where do you get from? We haven’t had that since flirting with the playoffs in 2006-09 and 9,767 against Forest was our nadir we had less under Ritchie in a division above where we are now many of those going then are dead 25 minutes ago, bigfatjoe1 said: It's a fallacy that's been following us around for years. Some fans thinks its a reset. Relegation is and always has been a disaster. 16 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Not a hope in hell. The fan base has been decimated Season tickets sales went up when we last got relegated. . . and that was with worry about the owners. Then the hope quickly died. Again. Fans want to watch winning football, we haven’t one successful season in 30 years, so have never been able to gauge our bounce back. If we got relegated, and new owners got us going- there is no question we would see 5/6k again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Bosnian Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, League one forever said: Season tickets sales went up when we last got relegated. . . and that was with worry about the owners. Then the hope quickly died. Again. Fans want to watch winning football, we haven’t one successful season in 30 years, so have never been able to gauge our bounce back. If we got relegated, and new owners got us going- there is no question we would see 5/6k again. Exactly, look at Stockport, 5000+ and they were in the Conference North 3 years ago. But they got the right owner and started winning games. If we get rid of these clowns and things turn around on the pitch the lapsed fans will return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 8 hours ago, League one forever said: Season tickets sales went up when we last got relegated. . . and that was with worry about the owners. Then the hope quickly died. Again. And our attendance for that first game was 4,764 (so about 4,100 home fans) If you think we would get more than that for a non league clash with Dover I’ll have some of what your smoking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 6 hours ago, Barry Bosnian said: Exactly, look at Stockport, 5000+ and they were in the Conference North 3 years ago. But they got the right owner and started winning games. If we get rid of these clowns and things turn around on the pitch the lapsed fans will return. Fans 'lapse' constantly. Our problem will be that over a period that goes back way longer than the Lemsagams they haven't been replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 7 hours ago, League one forever said: Season tickets sales went up when we last got relegated. . . and that was with worry about the owners. Then the hope quickly died. Again. Fans want to watch winning football, we haven’t one successful season in 30 years, so have never been able to gauge our bounce back. If we got relegated, and new owners got us going- there is no question we would see 5/6k again. This is a fallacy as well. Season Tickets sales went up because they reduced the prices if bought before mid April (not sure of the date) and at the time it looked like we were staying up and it was a really good offer. It was the most we'd sold in a good few seasons, but then we couldn't muster a win from our final nine matches when just one would have done. so we had our best season ticket sales in years to start life in the fourth division with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Chaddyexile84 said: And our attendance for that first game was 4,764 (so about 4,100 home fans) If you think we would get more than that for a non league clash with Dover I’ll have some of what your smoking I didn’t say anything about an isolated game, I said - If we had new owners and If they got us going- (ie winning a lot more than we lose) If we got relegated and struggled crowds would dwindle again. Never underestimate the power of consistent winning football. Salford had 12 fans 10 years ago- now they’ve got 3000. Did they suddenly find people who back in love with Salford- (if you think that, I’ll have some of what your smoking) or do people want to watch watch winning football? 1 hour ago, Steve_R said: This is a fallacy as well. Season Tickets sales went up because they reduced the prices if bought before mid April (not sure of the date) and at the time it looked like we were staying up and it was a really good offer. It was the most we'd sold in a good few seasons, but then we couldn't muster a win from our final nine matches when just one would have done. so we had our best season ticket sales in years to start life in the fourth division with. You say it’s a fallacy, but then go onto say that’s exactly what happened. . ? We run offers every single season. People bought because they thought we were going to have a season of challenging and surviving. Turns out - we were shit. Again. So people don’t gone back. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 My point was that people bought season tickets because they thought they'd be watching third division football at a good price. The sales didn't go up because we were relegated, most had been sold when we were still in league one and really should have stayed there. Once the season started and we realised how shit the division is we thought we should go straight back up and we could actually have some fun for one season in the bottom tier. Once it became obvious that Abbdallah couldn't run a batch never mind a football club, people started staying away. The clubs now in the National League (Notts County, Chesterfield, Stockport etc) all went down with better crowds than we get now.our crowds have been in decline for years and many stopped going because they'd had enough of Third Division football, so I can't see them rushing back if we end up in non league. We' don't know, and hopefully we don't get to find out. We just need to get the clowns out and hope for the best that someone can come in and turn us round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, League one forever said: Salford had 12 fans 10 years ago- now they’ve got 3000. Did they suddenly find people who back in love with Salford- (if you think that, I’ll have some of what your smoking) or do people want to watch watch winning football? Yet they only managed 1400 home supporters on Saturday ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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