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1 hour ago, deyres42 said:

They sold a soon to be England international for less than 5 million quid, much bigger dropped bollock.

Nope, Tarky apparently threw his toys out of the pram and refused to play in a game to force a move*. Getting £5 million for a Championship level defender who does that isn’t a dropped bollock. It doesn’t matter if he then goes on to play for England a few years later he was signed by a Championship club from a Championship club having never played in the Premiership- that makes him a Championship level defender.

 

Selling a sell on fee for a fraction of what it would have earnt because you’ve been over-ambitious and built too expensive a stand that you are going to hold in another company and need the money is a dropped bollock. Some would argue it could be something worse.

 

Sell-on fees are pointless if you take the money before the sale. The whole point is to improve the value for both clubs on either end of the spectrum. Players who turn out good are worth more money but players who turn out bad are worth less. We sold Tarky for slightly less than his proper market value as we thought there was a good chance that we’d end up with more money if he continued to progress. He did but we didn’t get the proper market value as we had sold the sell-on clause. I know what some will say about not getting burnt twice after the Micah Richards issue, but the Landlords owed people money for the new stand and they sold Tarky’s sell-on clause to cover some of that debt. The fact that the new stand is still owned by the same Landlords despite them selling the club is a real issue for me. The club helped fund that new stand, but the club don’t own it (or the equivalent share).

 

*I think Tarky’s Mum wasn’t well so he wanted to move back up North to be nearer to her.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Ryan said:

And he didn’t come back on loan either 

 

Alfie Mawson has gone on to play in the Premier League too, at Swansea, wonder how much Brentford got for him?

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3 hours ago, stevesidg said:

Hindsight is a wonderful thing

 

 

In the case of a sell on clause where a player is no longer yours it's akin to playing poker against a hidden ten card hand when your own five cards are face up for all to see.

 

Brentford may well have known their plans for the player.  We wouldn't have had a clue.

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8 hours ago, rudemedic said:

Nope, Tarky apparently threw his toys out of the pram and refused to play in a game to force a move*. Getting £5 million for a Championship level defender who does that isn’t a dropped bollock. It doesn’t matter if he then goes on to play for England a few years later he was signed by a Championship club from a Championship club having never played in the Premiership- that makes him a Championship level defender.

 

Selling a sell on fee for a fraction of what it would have earnt because you’ve been over-ambitious and built too expensive a stand that you are going to hold in another company and need the money is a dropped bollock. Some would argue it could be something worse.

 

Sell-on fees are pointless if you take the money before the sale. The whole point is to improve the value for both clubs on either end of the spectrum. Players who turn out good are worth more money but players who turn out bad are worth less. We sold Tarky for slightly less than his proper market value as we thought there was a good chance that we’d end up with more money if he continued to progress. He did but we didn’t get the proper market value as we had sold the sell-on clause. I know what some will say about not getting burnt twice after the Micah Richards issue, but the Landlords owed people money for the new stand and they sold Tarky’s sell-on clause to cover some of that debt. The fact that the new stand is still owned by the same Landlords despite them selling the club is a real issue for me. The club helped fund that new stand, but the club don’t own it (or the equivalent share).

 

*I think Tarky’s Mum wasn’t well so he wanted to move back up North to be nearer to her.

 

 

And breathe.

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4 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

And in the case of Micah Richards we got bugger all by waiting. Once bitten twice shy and all that?

 

Highly likely that a mix of this and financial desperation drove Corney's decision making.

 

But when the other side holds all the cards when you try to cut a deal, it really isn't a deal worth cutting.

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You have wonder why a club are interested in selling a buy out clause? If he is bobbins, you would refuse. If he has obvious potential, rumours he’s moving on, your thinking about selling him. Then u would sell it, so u would think the club holding the clause would think, let’s hold on a bit longer. But it is what it is, we needed the money at the time.

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4 hours ago, opinions4u said:

 

In the case of a sell on clause where a player is no longer yours it's akin to playing poker against a hidden ten card hand when your own five cards are face up for all to see.

 

Brentford may well have known their plans for the player.  We wouldn't have had a clue.

Agreed. But we should have had a clue. For starters, if Brentford we’re willing to do a deal then it’s fair to assume they planned to sell him soon. 

 

Also, Tarky still had/has ties to the area. Surely someone could have had a dig around to see if a move was likely?

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1 hour ago, latics22 said:

You have wonder why a club are interested in selling a buy out clause? If he is bobbins, you would refuse. If he has obvious potential, rumours he’s moving on, your thinking about selling him. Then u would sell it, so u would think the club holding the clause would think, let’s hold on a bit longer. But it is what it is, we needed the money at the time.

Bit harsh second bestie 

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11 hours ago, johnafoafc said:

Hopefully Abdallah won’t be as naive, misguided or as desperate to cash in on sell on clauses as his predecessor.  The club have missed out big time so far on Tarky.

 

Hopefully now we won't have to give away the very promising Tom Hamer.

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6 hours ago, latics22 said:

You have wonder why a club are interested in selling a buy out clause? If he is bobbins, you would refuse. If he has obvious potential, rumours he’s moving on, your thinking about selling him. Then u would sell it, so u would think the club holding the clause would think, let’s hold on a bit longer. But it is what it is, we needed the money at the time.

If you can answer your own question then it isn't actually a question at all. 

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