Lags Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) Has he played for hartlepool in the fa cup this season? Yes in the 6-1 defeat at Chesterfield, round one Edited January 29, 2013 by Lags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Don't buy in to this too old nonsense. Plenty of players still have a top game at 36 years old, if he's been brought in to fight in the middle and get the ball passed around then his age shouldn't affect that - he's not running the wings. Welcome back Paul! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJazzer Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I think it's a bit of desperation. Give Winchester and Mellor a chance. Can't complain that they're too inexperienced, they all are until they get a run in a side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) There is more to this than meets the eye! A fit experienced 36 year old of some quality who wants to take a managerial post this summer. This is a good move and gives PD support and something to think about. Welcome Paul! Edited January 29, 2013 by Hands on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Fired off from Hartlepool who it as to be said are having a storming season.....not for me this one at all. Sums up this club, from the heights of euphoria to scrapping the barrel again. Who posted Wellens was a possible? jesus wept That's what I feel too Lags. Cheap-as-chips PR signing for me this. Fans get a touch of misty-eyed nostalgia and conveniently forget the reality of it. Getting a half fit, one-legged Wellens back would be a coup and actually make me think "you know, we can do this". That said, love Muzza with all of my heart. But I think we're going into a gun fight with a knife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I suppose on reflection we've nothing to win this season it's all about survival. So I guess and providing that this next bit is true, we do indeed survive and use some of the FA Cup cash for true team strengthening next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwaymick Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 who's next, Marty McFly? very mature reply there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticdickovarmy Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Murray will be good in and around the club and has been brought in to bolster a small squad with no experience as well as being very cheap No it wont set the world alight but im sure he could still do a job when required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza699 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Ready made coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewDodd Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I think it's a fantastic signing - just what we need, a bit of guile and experience. In my opinion, it may release Furman to do what he does better, but at the very least, he will have to perform with Murray around! Or am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4froale Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Is this a joke, jesus christ are we preparing for league 2 already. just so people know, i am more than willing to give him a chance, but this isnt the kind of signing youd expect to keep us in the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 If we're paying him peanuts then I cant see a problem. .. even if its just to have his experience on the training ground and in the dressing room its going to be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 General consensus on the Hartlepool forum is that they're not going to miss him as a player but he's a big loss in and around the club as an unofficial coach and his experience / leadership ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Hartlepool binned him off because they wanted fresher legs in midfield, perhaps he struggles to play 2 lots of 90 minutes every week. Here, he probably won't have to do that. What I think he'll do is have little cameos here and there he is not in our first choice midfield. Whilst Winchester had a great game against Liverpool he was playing against an out-manned Henderson and Allen for most of it. Henderson and Allen are lightweights compared to the a lot of players at this level and Winchester is very prone to getting out muscled. Murray is not as prone to that issue. Whether this signing turns our season round is yet to be determined, but one thing it sure won't be is the reason why we end up playing in League 2 next season, if we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 If we're paying him peanuts then I cant see a problem. .. even if its just to have his experience on the training ground and in the dressing room its going to be worth it. Agree, I don't expect him to play every game but when Cliff Byrne is oldest player in the squad at 30 by some distance you know that the squad is short on experience. As said above this signing could have just as big an impact off the pitch as on it. Positionally there are other areas of the pitch which are higher priorities to strengthen but if this move still gives us room to bring in another player then it's a good move. We certainly need extra bodies in the squad! Winchester and Mellor (and other youngsters) do need a run in the side to really prove that they are good enough, but to be honest their chance to do it with us this season may have already come and gone. If it's a choice between having Winchester, Mellor or Murray starting for us in a relegation battle then I know who I would choose. Dickov has had chances to give youngsters opportunities to play earlier in the season when first teamers were not performing and we weren't in immediate danger but chose to go with the first teamers (possibly to save his job in the short term). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticdickovarmy Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 just so people know, i am more than willing to give him a chance, but this isnt the kind of signing youd expect to keep us in the division. This is the exact kind of signing I would expect would keep us in the league as opposed to unproven premier league kids who havent played real football away at Hartlepool on a Tuesday freezing cold night I know which I would choose everyday of the week At least he is a proper signing even if only until June but better than 1 month loan still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 In my opinion, it may release Furman to do what he does better Playing for South Africa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Exactly my first thought when I read it. Just seen this. Sort of mine too; though my 1st thought was Murray is now the #2 as well as registering as a player. In a similar way to what Ritchie Humphries is doing right now; and Nathan Jones was doing at Yeovil. Experienced player available for when needed; but when not playing; taking a seat on the touchline and helping on match days. That's my take on this. If that's not right; and he's purely a player; he adds much needed experience; but still - hmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Hartlepool binned him off because they wanted fresher legs in midfield, perhaps he struggles to play 2 lots of 90 minutes every week. Here, he probably won't have to do that. What I think he'll do is have little cameos here and there he is not in our first choice midfield. Whilst Winchester had a great game against Liverpool he was playing against an out-manned Henderson and Allen for most of it. Henderson and Allen are lightweights compared to the a lot of players at this level and Winchester is very prone to getting out muscled. Murray is not as prone to that issue. Whether this signing turns our season round is yet to be determined, but one thing it sure won't be is the reason why we end up playing in League 2 next season, if we do. He's learning fast, he once nicked the ball off Gerrard and left him floundering on the ground., Gerrard then appeared to moan to the referee about Winchester's strong arm tactics. More like this and we have a real player on our hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 What the pissing :censored:? We release Gregan and Hazell, two solid centre backs, a partnership we've yet to adequately replace, because they're "too old" and then we sign someone 9 years past his best, who frankly looks like he's been severely ill. If this is a Paul Gerrard type signing, primarily as a coach but signed on as a player in case our first teamers, reserves, youth and u14 midfielders all get injured, then fair enough, but at least paint it out that way. 'Kin hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_La_Vega Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I love Paul Murray, and would let him play until he was 46. There is, and can ever be, only one Paul Murray. Legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I dont know what to think, maybe he may prove by quiet doubts to be wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Agree, I don't expect him to play every game but when Cliff Byrne is oldest player in the squad at 30 by some distance you know that the squad is short on experience. As said above this signing could have just as big an impact off the pitch as on it. Positionally there are other areas of the pitch which are higher priorities to strengthen but if this move still gives us room to bring in another player then it's a good move. We certainly need extra bodies in the squad! I think Mr Byrne is having us on - there's no bloomin' way he's two years younger than me! Regarding Muzza, I don't know how anyone can decide he's a bad signing until we see him play. Who cares if he's been released by Hartlepool - there's obviously a lot they're not doing right at the moment. We have a decent team on paper, but something is missing - maybe Murray's the man to bring it all together, whereas at Hartlepool he was just surrounded by cack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor evil Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Can't fault him returning at all,gives us another body in what is at the moment a very small squad ! I don't expect Murray to be the player he was 9 years ago but unless he has developed Alzheimers and forgotten what the round thing at his feet is, he will be only second to Jose in the pass to another blue shirt stake. Probably more useful still is his experience, reading and knowledge of the game. We do still need a striker though ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 What the pissing :censored:? We release Gregan and Hazell, two solid centre backs, a partnership we've yet to adequately replace, because they're "too old" and then we sign someone 9 years past his best, who frankly looks like he's been severely ill. If this is a Paul Gerrard type signing, primarily as a coach but signed on as a player in case our first teamers, reserves, youth and u14 midfielders all get injured, then fair enough, but at least paint it out that way. 'Kin hell. Gregan was :censored:ed after single-handedly keeping us up under Penney. Hazell made mistakes here there and :censored:ing everywhere. Anyway - it's not like you'll be down at Boundary Park to see him play (Everton game apart i'd imagine.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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