Hands on Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I just love the idea that most people have about representatives. They all think the rep should do and say what they think. They even think a rep should do what the majority of vocal people want. A true representative will obviously know what the vocal minority i.e. us think BUT the true representative then has to make up their own mind and act accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alangroves Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Good point - if correct, makes Owen even more culpable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alangroves Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Hands on - utter nonsense - and my point was about the poster before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) The Chron says: 'A security team is also believed to have been arranged for the player an unprecedented move for an Athletic signing.' And the deal was drawn up last week. How can the club could come out and say that they didn't expect the outrage when they had already planned a security team? Any excuse citing that they're shocked by the magnitude of the negativity is absolute bollocks. Edited January 5, 2015 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I just love the idea that most people have about representatives. They all think the rep should do and say what they think. They even think a rep should do what the majority of vocal people want. A true representative will obviously know what the vocal minority i.e. us think BUT the true representative then has to make up their own mind and act accordingly. So you are saying he represents his own views then? not the fans? Yep that sounds like Barry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I just love the idea that most people have about representatives. They all think the rep should do and say what they think. They even think a rep should do what the majority of vocal people want. A true representative will obviously know what the vocal minority i.e. us think BUT the true representative then has to make up their own mind and act accordingly. You do come out with some pearlers at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 No way on God's earth should a fans representative ever be a board director; the conflicts of interets are completely unmanageable. Does the trust's constitution not have a claue allowing for a vote of no confidence regardless of whether an election is due? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Does the trust's constitution not have a claue allowing for a vote of no confidence regardless of whether an election is due? Find it and I can tell you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 No way on God's earth should a fans representative ever be a board director; the conflicts of interets are completely unmanageable. I'm a big Barry critic but that's been the case from day one. Indeed that was the goal - to have someone "on the inside" - the problem seems to my eyes to be Barry went native and now works for the club, not the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Nothing to stop the rest of the trust committee resigning, without a quorum he can't legally run it on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'm a big Barry critic but that's been the case from day one. Indeed that was the goal - to have someone "on the inside" - the problem seems to my eyes to be Barry went native and now works for the club, not the fans. A genuine represetntive should be at board meetings and accepting that there are some matters for directors eyes and ears only but not actually on the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) We have discussed all this before but us fans choose not to do anything about it as a collective. We kind of only have ourselves to blame that Barry is still in his position. Plenty of warnings over the years but those who choose to point out all the ills were abused and put down. So is there going to be another period of anger followed by nothing ? As it stands today every season ticket holder is now a member. It allows Barry to go to the board say he speaks for you all. Its clearly not the case. Time for a change. Edited January 5, 2015 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Why not wind up and reform the trust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Why not wind up and reform the trust? That is wrong on so many levels-amend what we have, just vote Barry out Edited January 5, 2015 by ChaddySmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 That is wrong on so many levels-amend what we have, just vote Barry out Nothing will change otherwise, many associations are wound up and reformed, its a simple procedure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Nothing will change otherwise, many associations are wound up and reformed, its a simple procedure. Wind it up and you risk losing whatever 'fan representation' you have left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Wind it up and you risk losing whatever 'fan representation' you have left. There is currently nothing to lose. Also if Corney ends up not accepting anyone we put up for the job at least it exposes it was all a farce from the start.. Edited January 5, 2015 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Again - a proper fans rep would have prevented this, to the benefit of the club and Simon Corney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 There is currently nothing to lose. Also if Corney ends up not accepting anyone we put up for the job at least it exposes it was all a farce from the start.. No, I agree, think the Trust is a lame duck with the current ownership, no strong opinion on whether or not it is something worth keeping going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 There is currently nothing to lose. Also if Corney ends up not accepting anyone we put up for the job at least it exposes it was all a farce from the start.. Corney cannot refuse to accept them, Barry might tell you that he can but he cannot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Wind it up and you risk losing whatever 'fan representation' you have left. Like the one we have now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Like the one we have now? Replace the fans rep-it is as simple as that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Like the one we have now? There is at least a semblance of it at the moment, no guarantee that would continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 The Chron says: 'A security team is also believed to have been arranged for the player an unprecedented move for an Athletic signing.' And the deal was drawn up last week. How can the club could come out and say that they didn't expect the outrage when they had already planned a security team? Any excuse citing that they're shocked by the magnitude of the negativity is absolute bollocks. Very true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Nothing to stop the rest of the trust committee resigning, without a quorum he can't legally run it on his own. WE need to know who they are on her. A couple have been available, and to be commeneded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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