Scapegoat Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 With the latest round of results the points per game ratio points to the 50 point mark being required (had been 46/47 until this weekend). Then we we need 12 points from 8 games. 3 wins, 3 draws and 2 defeats. Seems plausible based on current run of form - though also seems plausible that none of them will be relaxed games and likely we will go into the last game not mathematically safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 We are on 41 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 We are on 41 points. So we are - I am an idiot. 9 points then for a potentially squeaky bum escape. 12 to be more comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Huge game at Fleetwood and two winnable homes against Swindon and Crewe should see us safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Huge game at Fleetwood and two winnable homes against Swindon and Crewe should see us safe. But we never do the expected do we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 If we win 7 of our 8 games we will be safe. If we lose all 8 we will be relegated. If Sheridan repeats his points ratio since returning of 1.43 in our last 8 games, we will finish on 52 points. Our two previous managers this season averaged, .88. We would have finished the season on 36 points if that average had continued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 A month ago it looked like 4 from 5 to go down. Now I think that 2 are virtually down and it is another 2 from 5. Well done Shez! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I completely agree with Shez that we should try to win each game. It's crazy to say that draws are no good though. We each point counts. We're going to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) If we win 7 of our 8 games we will be safe. If we lose all 8 we will be relegated. If Sheridan repeats his points ratio since returning of 1.43 in our last 8 games, we will finish on 52 points. Our two previous managers this season averaged, .88. We would have finished the season on 36 points if that average had continued. 14 games have returned - 4 defeats; 5 wins and 5 draws. 12 goals conceded; 11 goals scored. No doubt Sheridan has improved our results, and a full season of his points per game would see us getting 65 points and respectable mid-table, but the quality of the performances and attractiveness is still pretty dour - still struggling to think of many genuinely 'enjoyable' games this season (Gillingham at home?). I appreciate that we are in a huge relegation struggle and its not a time for pretty football and we need points, but if we want to arrest the slide in attendances we need to start entertaining as well as picking up scrappy wins. We have not won a league game by more than a single goal this season, and every point feels 'on edge' right to the final whistle. The team and the fans would benefit from a comfortable 3-0 win at some stage... The fact that we are still in the relegation zone is a measure quite how deep in the flag following the Kelly/Dunn tenures. Edited March 29, 2016 by Scapegoat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceskylatic Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 14 games have returned - 4 defeats; 5 wins and 5 draws. 12 goals conceded; 11 goals scored. No doubt Sheridan has improved our results, and a full season of his points per game would see us getting 65 points and respectable mid-table, but the quality of the performances and attractiveness is still pretty dour - still struggling to think of many genuinely 'enjoyable' games this season (Gillingham at home?). I appreciate that we are in a huge relegation struggle and its not a time for pretty football and we need points, but if we want to arrest the slide in attendances we need to start entertaining as well as picking up scrappy wins. We have not won a league game by more than a single goal this season, and every point feels 'on edge' right to the final whistle. The team and the fans would benefit from a comfortable 3-0 win at some stage... The fact that we are still in the relegation zone is a measure quite how deep in the flag following the Kelly/Dunn tenures. The main priority is staying in this division which is more likely to be achieved by keeping players organised,focused on keeping things tight at the back and nicking goals at the other end in scrappy 1-0 wins on a poor home pitch.Sheridan knows we currently don't have the personnel to play expansive attractive football that brings the 3-0 wins.That's for another day when hopefully Sheridan is given the opportunity to bring in players who may deliver a more entertaining style of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggy_oafc Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I've probably missed something obvious here but why aren't we playing on Saturday? Many thanks in advance Woof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I've probably missed something obvious here but why aren't we playing on Saturday? Many thanks in advance Woof. Should be Barnsley away, but they are playing in the JPT final this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshawlatic Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I've probably missed something obvious here but why aren't we playing on Saturday? Many thanks in advance Woof. We were meant to play Barnsley but they're in the JPT final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 The shot stats paint a positive picture even though they haven't been matched by a bigger return, ratio up to just short of 53% from 48%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 We have not won a league game by more than a single goal this season, and every point feels 'on edge' right to the final whistle. . The fact that we are still in the relegation zone is a measure quite how deep in the flag following the Kelly/Dunn tenures. Yesterday at the match I sat back for the last 10 minutes smoking a (imaginary) ciggie-Gerrard marshalled things superbly. Corney has a lot to answer for with the Kelly/Dunn appointments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 14 games have returned - 4 defeats; 5 wins and 5 draws. 12 goals conceded; 11 goals scored. No doubt Sheridan has improved our results, and a full season of his points per game would see us getting 65 points and respectable mid-table, but the quality of the performances and attractiveness is still pretty dour - still struggling to think of many genuinely 'enjoyable' games this season (Gillingham at home?). I appreciate that we are in a huge relegation struggle and its not a time for pretty football and we need points, but if we want to arrest the slide in attendances we need to start entertaining as well as picking up scrappy wins. We have not won a league game by more than a single goal this season, and every point feels 'on edge' right to the final whistle. The team and the fans would benefit from a comfortable 3-0 win at some stage... Something I've noted too. From what I've seen of Shez - about 6 games - we've been too fond of hoof ball because we can't resist the Holloway temptation. Not helped by the shocking distribution from some of our defenders, who can't make a short pass the rare times they look for one. It was like watching a game of that Gaelic football first half against Chesterfield, and it was even worse versus Rochdale. For the £22 you pay the matches are often terrible in standard and desperately boring, with two teams there to spoil each other and hope they get a bit of luck. Needs to be improved, and we need to appreciate Holloway is more than simply a man to hoof to. With players like Palmer, Winchester and Jones we've got no excuses either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I think the hoof ball is the way to play on that pitch. And something needed to be done to make us more direct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I think the hoof ball is the way to play on that pitch. And something needed to be done to make us more direct. The passing performance against Burton was an improvement over most games I have seen at BP - pitch must play a part I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Yesterday at the match I sat back for the last 10 minutes smoking a (imaginary) ciggie-Gerrard marshalled things superbly. Corney has a lot to answer for with the Kelly/Dunn appointments Whoever talked Sheridan into taking on an almost lost cause is due some credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Between now and end of the season I don't care how we get points It's not about entertainment at present its about staying up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Between now and end of the season I don't care how we get points It's not about entertainment at present its about staying up This for me, if we get out of this car crash of a season with our Div 1 status intact, we can work on the style next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) Does anyone else think that Shez will be here forever irrespective of if we go down, which I don't believe we will; ie until the end of his career? Would be nice to have a 10, 15 to 20 year manager again for a change. Edited March 29, 2016 by L1onheartNew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshawlatic Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) Does anyone else think that Shez will be here forever irrespective of if we go down, which I don't believe we will; ie until the end of his career? Would be nice to have a 10, 15 to 20 year manager again for a change. If he's learnt from the mistakes he made at the end of his last tenure (and it appears he has, from his last jobs alone) I can see him being here a while - and a I hope he is!! Edited March 30, 2016 by JWhite101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Well making it to 2 full seasons would be a start. Shez doesn't come across that well in the media, which means that he is unlikely to attract the kind of media attention that LJ or Dowie did - therefore not sure he will be seen as a positive move for many clubs where that is a big factor. He does appear the sort that could be a long term manager at a club - and as success with us doesn't need to be massive it's possible that he could be here a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Does anyone else think that Shez will be here forever irrespective of if we go down, which I don't believe we will; ie until the end of his career? Would be nice to have a 10, 15 to 20 year manager again for a change. I'd like to think so but, if he had success at Latics, I can't imagine he'd turn down Wednesday if they came calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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