deyres42 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 What a difference a goalkeeper makes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 58 minutes ago, deyres42 said: What a difference a goalkeeper makes... I wonder if Shez would still be here if he'd just given Placide a go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, JoeP said: I wonder if Shez would still be here if he'd just given Placide a go? No, I think he'd had enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 A brave/smart manager now would ease Clarke out and bring Gerrard in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, deyres42 said: A brave/smart manager now would ease Clarke out and bring Gerrard in. Not sure one offers much more than the other and my personal preference would be for Clarke, he's better in both boxes and leads the team well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSizeFitz Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 3 hours ago, Magister said: Yes they are....they showed that Scunthope scored a third goal They also conclusively show that grass is green and that we play in blue. ...like your point, however, neither of those things is relevant to my query about whether Duane Holmes was in an offside position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk200 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, OneSizeFitz said: They also conclusively show that grass is green and that we play in blue. ...like your point, however, neither of those things is relevant to my query about whether Duane Holmes was in an offside position. Looked off to me from 80yds away....noted that ref took a long hard look towards lino before giving it.Waiting to see highlights before forming final judgement. Edited October 28, 2017 by pk200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Ended up really enjoying that after being highly frustrated with the first 30minutes. We simply didn’t handle the weather at the start especially with a change in personnel. Ruddy, as has been said visibly drains the confidence out of the defence especially Peter Clarke. Omrani again showed his lack of awareness positionally, he runs around like a headless chicken and forever gets caught ahead of the ball. He seems to do ok when he comes on as a sub because the games are always stretched by this point. Fair play to Richie for making a sub early, we absolutely battered them for the remainder of the match. McArdle and Burgess are hard to win headers against, especially when the kicks from Ruddy we’re often just aimless punts rather than aimed towards the strikers as Placide does. We’d have won comfortably if Menig and especially Doyle put one of many chances away. Glad that our two goals were from set pieces, shows we can score a different way other than intricate passing moves. Unlucky with their third, when you’re playing a 3-3-4, there’s always the chance it could happen especially after we had just scored, do feel Placide would have stopped it though. Scunthorpe have been a top 6 side for 2 seasons now and we’re miles the better team provided we have Placide in net and Gardner in the middle. Fane needs Gardner and Byrne around him and Byrne needs Gardner central with him. They are a very very important threesome that shouldn’t be broken up. Dummigan is gaining more and more confidence which is great to see, not the best defensively but he’s becoming an increasingly important asset going forward. Byrne looks for him a lot with the ball. We were going to lose sometime and we’ll take a lot from that defeat. I can’t see us being comprehensively thumped by anyone this seaso. If this team stay together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 13 minutes ago, pk200 said: Looked off to me from 80yds away....noted that ref took a long hard look towards lino before giving it.Waiting to see highlights before forming final judgement. It's irrelevant as is whether they should have a penalty.....the goal was given , the penalty wasn't.....that's how the game is. We fans discussing ubtil Tuesday alters nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rteoafc Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mickey Quinn's testicles said: I agree it's irrrelevant. People discussing a football match on a football forum, whatever next? I'm just watching Match of the Day, why do they need Alan Shearer and Danny Murphy to discuss a match we have all just watched? That’s a very good question in itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 48 minutes ago, Magister said: It's irrelevant as is whether they should have a penalty.....the goal was given , the penalty wasn't.....that's how the game is. We fans discussing ubtil Tuesday alters nothing Good point. Ackey, Stevie etc, lock the whole board up. Shit happens and we shouldn't discuss it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardOafc Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 7 hours ago, deckyd said: Ffs. This keeper is awful. Lucky block they got of dummy. Ruddy is absolute dog shite,I have seen better Sunday league keepers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 2 hours ago, deyres42 said: A brave/smart manager now would ease Clarke out and bring Gerrard in. Clarke’s been much improved since Wellens took charge. One poor game doesn’t warrant a change in my opinion. Plus, it’s a big decision to take your captain out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markspark92 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Today proves how big a player Placide is for us he provides the base for our team, Ruddy parried 2 that lead to 2 goals, I think Johnny would of caught the cross for their 3rd he has miles better awareness and handling and distribution then Ruddy, he put his foot through everything, I think Ruddy makes a good save initially for their first unlucky with it falling right in the path of their striker, we started very poorly today, difficult conditions was always going to be tough after the effort we put in Tuesday and Scunthorpe having the weeks rest. I thought Scunthorpe were a decent side closed us down constantly and when they won the ball they could find men with quick passing and were good on the counter. Omrani was poor today every pass was to an opponent and was rightly subbed, Queensy came on and gave us a lift we started to get back into the game with Byrne getting on the ball and picking his passes. Shows the spirit we have to fight back from 2 down but on another day Doyle bags at least 2 he had a bad day today, so unlucky the way the ball ricocheted into their wingers pass for the winner, Dummigan had a good game again, I thought Hunt was our MOM dident put a foot wrong all game, hopefully Johnny is back for the next league game he is a huge player for us ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayvan Cowboy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 It was a funny feeling coming away from a defeat not feeling too disheartened or pessimistic. The first 20 minutes were dire, but we improved a lot after were in previous seasons and probably even a few weeks ago we'd have folded completely and lost by a few more. Conceding pretty much straight after scoring is unforgivable though and the defence is a concern. Daft as it sounds it may be a blessing, as it gives Wellens his first real test as manager and a chance to assess and reassess. It's a test I'm confident he'll pass with flying colours. Also i thought they were a very decent side and I reckon they'll be right up there come May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Bishop was excellent for Scunny. He stopped everything we threw at them and seemed to start everything for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 To be fair to Burgess he looked much improved and seemed to benefit from having a couple of older heads around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I like Wellens would of started with that team. Fair play to Wellens for changing it quickly. Why did Clarke come off? Strange one if tactical. When we equalised we didn't have any players left on the pitch that could fit into any sort of formation. So their winnerwas always goingto happen. That gamble from Wellens came a little to early on 74 minutes, we scored not long after that. For their Dummigan has to take absolutely everything and win that tackle. He didn't go in fully committed, still an unlucky bounce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 45 minutes ago, welshgaz said: I like Wellens would of started with that team. Fair play to Wellens for changing it quickly. Why did Clarke come off? Strange one if tactical. When we equalised we didn't have any players left on the pitch that could fit into any sort of formation. So their winnerwas always goingto happen. That gamble from Wellens came a little to early on 74 minutes, we scored not long after that. For their Dummigan has to take absolutely everything and win that tackle. He didn't go in fully committed, still an unlucky bounce. That is a little unfair on Drumningham, he was first to the ball it just pinged off their lad straight to the lad in acres of space, fair point about the team that started though, you would have thought it would have offered a little more protection to the back 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Think Ruddy's getting some unfair stick here. The first one he's done well to save, then their lad is just more alert and on the front foot than our back four. The second is an absolute travesty from Clarke, twice. He maybe could have done better on the the third, but I think their forward flying in at the near post may get a little touch. Agree with welshgaz above - Dummigan's got to be braver and do more there. Edited October 29, 2017 by josh_latics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Thoroughly entertained by that game. Shame about the result. A good rest for some players midweek would be wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laticfanatic1 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 16 minutes ago, josh_latics said: Think Ruddy's getting some unfair stick here. The first one he's done well to save, then their lad is just more alert and on the front foot than our back four. The second is an absolute travesty from Clarke, twice. He maybe could have done better on the the third, but I think their forward flying in at the near post may get a little touch. Agree with welshgaz above - Dummigan's got to be braver and do more there. First one he's got to push it away from the 6 yard box, can't just palm it into the path of the striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Good test for RW now, easy when your winning and a whole lot harder when you lose. The substitutions he makes shows me that he recognises his problems and is not afraid to make changes regardless of who and why. Many managers would not even contemplate subbing the captain, or indeed subbing a player that he thought would do well and give him his first start only to find it was not working. Stubbornness seems not to be clouding his judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Highlights: Think Ruddy's initial save for the first goal is slightly better than I first thought and the defence is less to blame. Not the best angle for the third, not clear if Ruddy should do better with the cross or not. Clarke looks to be injured after scoring (cut around the eye) wonder if that's why he was subbed? Can't make out the penalty very well too, but I wonder if there's an element of the forward shooting, it going wide and then running into Ruddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanGrovesFanClub Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 4 hours ago, opinions4u said: Thoroughly entertained by that game. Shame about the result. A good rest for some players midweek would be wise. They're all getting a rest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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