JoeP Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 It's obviously been done to death on this and other websites but I would be interested to see if, in numbers, the level of confidence in the owners is unanimous on here.. Absolutely no witch-hunt, by the way. No explanation required for vote. Respect due whichever way is voted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Said it as far back as May 2018, I thought the owner was clueless. He still is, he’s learnt nothing. But be under no illusion, the reason we have such an fantasist owner and his hapless brother, is because of Blitz. They’re all cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Anyone who says yes is either on drugs or should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Anyone who says yes is either on drugs or should be Existing support on other social media, by some accounts.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFC_ULTRA Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 He is absolutely out of his depth. No idea how to run the club, other than into the ground. He is funding his idiot brothers dream to run a football club and has an idiot alongside him who will tell him everything he wants to hear. It will end soon. Either he will sell or the club goes bust. I hope for the former but I am not optimistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 47 minutes ago, OAFC_ULTRA said: He is absolutely out of his depth. No idea how to run the club, other than into the ground. He is funding his idiot brothers dream to run a football club and has an idiot alongside him who will tell him everything he wants to hear. It will end soon. Either he will sell or the club goes bust. I hope for the former but I am not optimistic Didn’t realise Mo was the driving force? Are you speculating or do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 I’m not sure who can ‘turn it round’ I’ve been waiting for someone to ‘turn it round’ for 23 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behind Closed Doors Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, OAFC_ULTRA said: He is absolutely out of his depth. No idea how to run the club, other than into the ground. He is funding his idiot brothers dream to run a football club and has an idiot alongside him who will tell him everything he wants to hear. It will end soon. Either he will sell or the club goes bust. I hope for the former but I am not optimistic Don’t disagree with your sentiments about him .....but I am not sure he is as green as the grass.....he stuffed Scholes in court.....he forced Blitz to court.....he has taken on the OEC .....he is ruthless in hiring and firing......I don’t see my many instances where he has lost..........he is no good for Oldham Athletic but I do feel his business acumen is underestimated . His football knowledge on the other hand..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Just now, Behind Closed Doors said: Don’t disagree with your sentiments about him .....but I am not sure he is as green as the grass.....he stuffed Scholes in court.....he forced Blitz to court.....he has taken on the OEC .....he is ruthless in hiring and firing......I don’t see my many instances where he has lost..........he is no good for Oldham Athletic but I do feel his business acumen is underestimated . His football knowledge on the other hand..? Er. . . You mean Blitz took AL court and forced him to pay? He took on the OEC - what by just not paying rent? How does Hiring and Firing prove good business acumen? Which leaves Scholes- which he did win in court. So 1 out of 4. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 11 hours ago, Behind Closed Doors said: Don’t disagree with your sentiments about him .....but I am not sure he is as green as the grass.....he stuffed Scholes in court.....he forced Blitz to court.....he has taken on the OEC .....he is ruthless in hiring and firing......I don’t see my many instances where he has lost..........he is no good for Oldham Athletic but I do feel his business acumen is underestimated . His football knowledge on the other hand..? Are you for fucking real? He is about as big a loser as you will find and is single handedly destroying our club from top to bottom, as for good business acumen alienating the vast majority of your customers doesn't really align with your train of thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fervid Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Golden rule in business is keep your customers on side, this feckwit hasn’t a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspiral_Carpet Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 14 hours ago, League one forever said: Er. . . You mean Blitz took AL court and forced him to pay? He took on the OEC - what by just not paying rent? How does Hiring and Firing prove good business acumen? Which leaves Scholes- which he did win in court. So 1 out of 4. . Really good points but I think it is 0 for 4. On Scholes, he was being sued for breach of contract for resigning due to “interference” in team selection which 99.9% of us know was going on. Scholes could easily have launched a defence and would have had numerous witnesses (including ex-managers and current and former playing staff) to prove that the Legsamams were interfering. If he could have been arsed, he would have won hands down. Facts are that Scholes is a very rich man, had/ has a number of other well documented issues on his plate and the sum involved was probably less than a week’s wages from his time at United. He offered no defence and so summary justice was awarded. That’s massively different from being unable to prove that there was any interference. It was a Pyrrhic victory for AL and only his staunchest supporters would ever use this as evidence that there was no case to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Inspiral_Carpet said: Really good points but I think it is 0 for 4. On Scholes, he was being sued for breach of contract for resigning due to “interference” in team selection which 99.9% of us know was going on. Scholes could easily have launched a defence and would have had numerous witnesses (including ex-managers and current and former playing staff) to prove that the Legsamams were interfering. If he could have been arsed, he would have won hands down. Facts are that Scholes is a very rich man, had/ has a number of other well documented issues on his plate and the sum involved was probably less than a week’s wages from his time at United. He offered no defence and so summary justice was awarded. That’s massively different from being unable to prove that there was any interference. It was a Pyrrhic victory for AL and only his staunchest supporters would ever use this as evidence that there was no case to answer. Ah, fair do’s. Didn’t realise it was in that context. 0 out of 4 it is then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 He did give everyone a free scarf though. Credit where credit's due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, oafc 123 said: He did give everyone a free scarf though. Credit where credit's due. And made two videos of our greatest moment, which seemed to get a few people onside.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, JoeP said: And made two videos of our greatest moment, which seemed to get a few people onside.. He had a clean slate when he came for me. I liked the videos and the scarves. Then I defended him when @lookersstandandywas pressing him for a plan - after all, he was new, and just because there was no detailed plan didn’t mean there wasn’t / wouldn’t be one. Then I defended him for binning off Gerrard and Byrne, who seemed to be divisive gobshites. Then the weird decisions started creeping in more and I stopped defending him. I even felt sorry for him at the Cricket Club forum, as he clearly had no idea of how angry people were. I thought that might be a lightbulb moment and that things might change. And it’s just continued in the same vein. Weird decision after weird decision on and off the pitch. And now I have no hope things will change. Him and his cronies don’t seem reflective, intelligent or respectful enough to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, maddog said: He had a clean slate when he came for me. I liked the videos and the scarves. Then I defended him when @lookersstandandywas pressing him for a plan - after all, he was new, and just because there was no detailed plan didn’t mean there wasn’t / wouldn’t be one. Then I defended him for binning off Gerrard and Byrne, who seemed to be divisive gobshites. Then the weird decisions started creeping in more and I stopped defending him. I even felt sorry for him at the Cricket Club forum, as he clearly had no idea of how angry people were. I thought that might be a lightbulb moment and that things might change. And it’s just continued in the same vein. Weird decision after weird decision on and off the pitch. And now I have no hope things will change. Him and his cronies don’t seem reflective, intelligent or respectful enough to change. I thought the video of classic moments which faded to his face at the end smacked of unimaginable arrogance - like he already thought of himself to be held in the same bracket as other club legends. When I heard a "former" agent was going to take us over I thought, at worst, he'd try and farm his former clients through the club (which, in fairness might have worked had his clients been any good). He did that, of course, but a whole load of other shit as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 On 9/26/2020 at 9:57 PM, Behind Closed Doors said: I don’t see my many instances where he has lost.......... Between 3 and 5pm most Saturdays....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldham82 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Get 1 or 2 new centre backs or play wheater and replace hamer a liability at moment , that will help us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 On 9/27/2020 at 3:38 PM, maddog said: He had a clean slate when he came for me. I liked the videos and the scarves. Then I defended him when @lookersstandandywas pressing him for a plan - after all, he was new, and just because there was no detailed plan didn’t mean there wasn’t / wouldn’t be one. Then I defended him for binning off Gerrard and Byrne, who seemed to be divisive gobshites. Then the weird decisions started creeping in more and I stopped defending him. I even felt sorry for him at the Cricket Club forum, as he clearly had no idea of how angry people were. I thought that might be a lightbulb moment and that things might change. And it’s just continued in the same vein. Weird decision after weird decision on and off the pitch. And now I have no hope things will change. Him and his cronies don’t seem reflective, intelligent or respectful enough to change. And Gerrard was still an offensive gobshite on that podcast. AL is a prick but binning that twat off is one of his good moves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: Between 3 and 5pm most Saturdays....? Quite! Since he became involved in Aug 2017: P132 W36 D45 L51 F171 A199 Av pts game 1.16 53 pts a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 If we actually knew what his real reason is for being here, perhaps things would be easier to understand. He is obviously not here to make us a better team/club, so what is his motive? We are spiralling out of control, with seemingly no concern to Lemmy. WHY. As long as his real motive for being here is bearing fruit, maybe he couldn't care less about the football side of things. One thing for sure, it will be a long way back for us, if and when he does go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, 100milesaway said: If we actually knew what his real reason is for being here, perhaps things would be easier to understand. He is obviously not here to make us a better team/club, so what is his motive? We are spiralling out of control, with seemingly no concern to Lemmy. WHY. As long as his real motive for being here is bearing fruit, maybe he couldn't care less about the football side of things. One thing for sure, it will be a long way back for us, if and when he does go. I think someone said (metty?) the other day. It was bought more for his brother to have a go at, which when you look at it makes a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 53 minutes ago, 100milesaway said: If we actually knew what his real reason is for being here, perhaps things would be easier to understand. He is obviously not here to make us a better team/club, so what is his motive? We are spiralling out of control, with seemingly no concern to Lemmy. WHY. As long as his real motive for being here is bearing fruit, maybe he couldn't care less about the football side of things. One thing for sure, it will be a long way back for us, if and when he does go. No need for conspiracy theories. The motivation was a good one I think, bring in promising under scouted players, play them and sell them on. Nothing wrong with that as a policy but he demonstrably had no idea what was needed at this level of the English domestic game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 These people bought a professional football club excluding the ground. So, them investment in the product on the pitch, would be a reasonable assumption for fans to make. This assumption we very quickly realised, was a false dawn. Why are they here? My worry is that it’s all going rather well for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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