GKing521 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Well. Let’s see if they can manage to muster a victory against a charity Southend outfit. If we lose that, will people still say it’s early days? This manager gives me absolutely no confidence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Green only gives you 45 minutes Hobson ain't no rightback Still missing someone to play through, Wards passing is on a par with Shelton and Sheron's - shite. We are in danger of alienating another kid whose done fuck all to deserve it - Sutton. Kitching has looked poor pre season particularly defensively. Fondop/Nuttall you may as well play two sacks of spuds up there. Only finisher we have has averaged about 15 minutes a game pre season. Looks low on confidence already. Winning machine we ain't but other than that it's been a productive pre season played mostly against pub teams. Good job next week is a gimme given Southends situation, hopefully Unsworth can turn it around in a week. Not having it that there was nothing in that game, Mansfield did as they pleased after half hour Aaron Lewis particularly took the piss all afternoon, granted we should of had two penalties but they could have scored 4 or 5 more and we couldn't have complained, we were out classed and sat in for 80% of the second half just like we did for large parts of last season. did you have that typed up already was it defo 442 yeah? thats massively unimaginative and so is the lack of game time for Reid, Willoughby, Sutton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 oh and decent crowd. l obvs got a bit excited predictin similar to a fleece days league crowd didnt l. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel Posted July 29, 2023 Author Share Posted July 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: oh and decent crowd. l obvs got a bit excited predictin similar to a fleece days league crowd didnt l. There were definitely more there today than numerous games under the previous regime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 (edited) I don’t understand Willoughby’s lack of minutes. The vitriol towards Nuttall is laughable. The only difference between him and Fondop is one can play for an hour and offer a little and came with a fee, the other can play for 30 mins before blowing out of his arse and scores the odd worldie which isn’t sustainable. But the latter gets a free pass. Let’s play 11 Paul Warnes. Today isn’t as bad as it seems though. Edited July 29, 2023 by sjk2008 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, sjk2008 said: Today isn’t as bad as it seems though. This is my hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev1970 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, sjk2008 said: I don’t understand Willoughby’s lack of minutes. The vitriol towards Nuttall is laughable. The only difference between him and Fondop is one can play for an hour and offer a little and came with a fee, the other can play for 30 mins before blowing out of his arse and scores the odd worldie which isn’t sustainable. But the latter gets a free pass. Let’s play 11 Paul Warnes. Today isn’t as bad as it seems though. Yes cannot understand why he is not starting he scored alot of goals last season get him in from the start instead of two forwards who are the same.The midfield is the main worry without lundstrem as centre same as last season with the same problems as before walking through us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, sjk2008 said: The vitriol towards Nuttall is laughable. The only difference between him and Fondop is one can play for an hour and offer a little and came with a fee, the other can play for 30 mins before blowing out of his arse and scores the odd worldie which isn’t sustainable. But the latter gets a free pass. That's a really strange paragraph. You don't have to discredit a different player to support Nuttall. Fondop was our top-scorer last season, scores the odd worldie AND easy goal and seems to have come back in pre-season stronger and fitter. He's currently our best striker...which is nothing to do with Nuttall. I'm not convinced on Nuttall - I don't think he offers much and, as you say, came with a fee (and was supposedly a player Unsworth insisted on bringing in, which might be another factor..) but booing him off in a friendly is ridiculous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 People saying Fondop Nuttsll don't work obviously didn't notice how many chances we created when those 2 were up top... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le miserable1 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 4:00 PM, Frankly Mr Shankly said: Agreed. He takes up a lot of virtual column space for a player that is a) a long way away from the worst striker we've never had and b) a striker who hasn't even started our last two friendly matches. Plus, I guarantee Nuttall will be in the starting lineup come the first match. I'm not a massive Nuttall fan either. I thought he did an adequate job with virtually none existent service. He'll get better the more the ball is put to him in the right areas and he has the kind of dark art shithousery about his game that I fucking love. On 7/24/2023 at 5:50 PM, Gaz_Oafc said: Bit baffled as to why Gardner gets better treatment than Nuttall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 (edited) we havent managed 4 strikers well in pre season or attempted to utilise any different ways of using a differing variation of combinations Edited July 29, 2023 by Monty Burns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le miserable1 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Between them Unsworth and Nuttall will undermine this season.The remedy is for Unsworth to swallow his pride and move Nuttall on.The whole team will have a different dynamic without him in the lineup.The miss when the goalkeeper was grounded today,my 8 year old granddaughter would have scored that.Of course there are some who would say it wasn’t a chance,hans Christian Anderson story comes to mind!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, sjk2008 said: I don’t understand Willoughby’s lack of minutes. The vitriol towards Nuttall is laughable. The only difference between him and Fondop is one can play for an hour and offer a little and came with a fee, the other can play for 30 mins before blowing out of his arse and scores the odd worldie which isn’t sustainable. But the latter gets a free pass. Let’s play 11 Paul Warnes. Today isn’t as bad as it seems though. Can’t say I’m Nuttall’s biggest fan but thought he did ok today, and thought him and Fondop looked lively and pressed well. The striker who disappointed me most today was Reid, who missed and absolute sitter and didn’t contribute much else, and he’s probably my favourite of the lot. The midfield still worries me. Keillor Dunn was buzzing about all over the place for them, whereas ours were far too static and poor in possession. Overall though, if the manager is happy and learned a bit more about the squad, and the players know more about what he wants and feel a lot better with the games in their legs, then pre season has done its job. We’ll find out how good a job once the season get’s going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, JoeP said: That's a really strange paragraph. You don't have to discredit a different player to support Nuttall. Fondop was our top-scorer last season, scores the odd worldie AND easy goal and seems to have come back in pre-season stronger and fitter. He's currently our best striker...which is nothing to do with Nuttall. I'm not convinced on Nuttall - I don't think he offers much and, as you say, came with a fee (and was supposedly a player Unsworth insisted on bringing in, which might be another factor..) but booing him off in a friendly is ridiculous. Can people stop saying Fondop was top scorer. He was here for twice the amount Nuttall was and Nuttall scored more goals in this league than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 minute ago, LightDN123 said: Can people stop saying Fondop was top scorer. He was here for twice the amount Nuttall was and Nuttall scored more goals in this league than him. For us? I'm pretty sure if you look at their minutes played Fondop would out score him, nevertheless they were both shite today as was Reid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Not many positives to take out of that car crash today lets hope it was just a blip for the Winning Machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: Can people stop saying Fondop was top scorer. He was here for twice the amount Nuttall was and Nuttall scored more goals in this league than him. Soz. At Rhinoball he was top scorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick26 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Right back and/or RWB required urgently and another Lundstrum type if Gardner isn't fit enough. Hobson needs to be central so Unsworth has to decide 2 out of 3 centre backs. Age wise etc I'd probably go Hobson and Raglan. Also got to be Nuttall or Fondop with Willoughby or Reid. Unsworth needs a good start to the season or the fans will turn again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frizzell54 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 A full season, a full preseason and DU not learned that the Fondop and Nuttall combo doesn’t work. I think he would have difficulty setting up to attack even if he was given City’s squad. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, LightDN123 said: Can people stop saying Fondop was top scorer. He was here for twice the amount Nuttall was and Nuttall scored more goals in this league than him. Why should anybody stop saying he was our top scorer when he was our top scorer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Steve_R said: Why should anybody stop saying he was our top scorer when he was our top scorer No point in arguing, we all know Nuttall is DUs first choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 minute ago, BP1960 said: No point in arguing, we all know Nuttall is DUs first choice. Stubbornness will be our undoing and that'll soon be brought to book if results don't follow He's got one last shot, I do hope he takes it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 The lack of a right back is ridiculous and should have been sorted before the first friendly. I felt sorry for Green being asked to do 2 jobs instead of 1. From what I saw the formation had no shape and that's a concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Friendlies don't count and all that, but has he really signed a competent Conference centre back and played him at full back all summer...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 I didn’t go today but think it would be safe to say it was a bit of a “ leveller”, if we needed one. DU got three more coming in he tells us. We start next Saturday so I’m hoping these additions are imminent, after all theres people desperate to sign for us … roll on the season proper so we can see what we are about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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