TheBigDog Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 3 hours ago, deyres42 said: People haven't been patient at all, they are expecting it to happen straight away. ‘straight away’ = twelve months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: ‘straight away’ = twelve months There was no expectation last season other than staying in the division. We are seven games into expecting to be a good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, deyres42 said: There was no expectation last season other than staying in the division. We are seven games into expecting to be a good team. You were finding it ‘increasingly difficult’ to defend him last week. . we’ve drawn one game and now you’re back to saying give him time. You flop flop more than the stench trying to cling to power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, League one forever said: You were finding it ‘increasingly difficult’ to defend him last week. . we’ve drawn one game and now you’re back to saying give him time. You flop flop more than the stench trying to cling to power. Said it before, not bothered either way, the signs obviously aren't great. Just objecting to the idea that patience has been shown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 31 minutes ago, deyres42 said: There was no expectation last season other than staying in the division. We are seven games into expecting to be a good team. I think that is fair, even if we are not getting results there should be improvement and that just isn't evident given the outlay, we still can't decide who the best; Goalkeeper is Preferred rightback Centrehalf partnership Formation Best way to use Norwood I've probably missed off half a dozen big issues surrounding the team, I just hope Unsworth stumbles across the solution because he come across like he doesn't have a plan and that worries me. Personally I'd be playing like we did at Gateshead with a touch more discipline, one up front with two wide men can be effective as we demonstrated, obviously that midfield needs improvement and I'd just be paying one holding midfielder in Sheron, Lundstrum plus one other (so long as it's not Shelton) in the middle should elevate us and Ward also gives us options in there when fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 34 minutes ago, deyres42 said: There was no expectation last season other than staying in the division. We are seven games into expecting to be a good team. Look at Steve Evans at Stevenage for example…he came in when they were in a very similar situation to ourselves. We subsequently beat them at their place and they looked destined for the drop but it was us who ended up relegated! He saved them from almost certain relegation, got them promoted to league 2 last season and just now has them 2nd in league 1!! He’s done it time and again. DU had almost a full season, a rake of players coming in, a full preseason and 7 games into the new season. It should be enough to show some improvement at least….I’ve seen very little if any so far. We could and should be in a far better position than we are….simples! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Look at Steve Evans at Stevenage for example…he came in when they were in a very similar situation to ourselves. We subsequently beat them at their place and they looked destined for the drop but it was us who ended up relegated! He saved them from almost certain relegation, got them promoted to league 2 last season and just now has them 2nd in league 1!! He’s done it time and again. DU had almost a full season, a rake of players coming in, a full preseason and 7 games into the new season. It should be enough to show some improvement at least….I’ve seen very little if any so far. We could and should be in a far better position than we are….simples! That's what experience brings you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: There was no expectation last season other than staying in the division. We are seven games into expecting to be a good team. Suggest you re-read: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Ritchierich said: I have said before that I simply don’t believe Unsworth has the ability or aptitude for this role, nothing personal or acrimonious about it but he is just not the right person. That said, I have decided to be Zen about it and given he is not going anywhere for the foreseeable future I have written this season off as I don’t believe we will challenge for promotion and possibly not even the playoffs, I will still go to all the Southern games (plenty of them in the NL!) and support the team on the pitch as I have through thick and mostly thin for the last 50 years! I sincerely hope DU proves me completely wrong You've said all that ever needs saying right there What's the bloody point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Just now, deyres42 said: That's what experience brings you. And we’re probably paying our ‘inexperienced’ manager a fair bit more. Pete Wild was also inexperienced but got Halifax into the playoffs twice and has had Barrow up near the top most of the time he’s been there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Look at Steve Evans at Stevenage for example…he came in when they were in a very similar situation to ourselves. We subsequently beat them at their place and they looked destined for the drop but it was us who ended up relegated! He saved them from almost certain relegation, got them promoted to league 2 last season and just now has them 2nd in league 1!! He brought in our captain though… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 42 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Look at Steve Evans at Stevenage for example…he came in when they were in a very similar situation to ourselves. We subsequently beat them at their place and they looked destined for the drop but it was us who ended up relegated! He saved them from almost certain relegation, got them promoted to league 2 last season and just now has them 2nd in league 1!! He’s done it time and again. DU had almost a full season, a rake of players coming in, a full preseason and 7 games into the new season. It should be enough to show some improvement at least….I’ve seen very little if any so far. We could and should be in a far better position than we are….simples! this post is contradictory and what the fuck is that ending???? that defo should be a banning offence for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 48 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: I think that is fair, even if we are not getting results there should be improvement and that just isn't evident given the outlay, we still can't decide who the best; Goalkeeper is Preferred rightback Centrehalf partnership Formation Best way to use Norwood I've probably missed off half a dozen big issues surrounding the team, I just hope Unsworth stumbles across the solution because he come across like he doesn't have a plan and that worries me. Personally I'd be playing like we did at Gateshead with a touch more discipline, one up front with two wide men can be effective as we demonstrated, obviously that midfield needs improvement and I'd just be paying one holding midfielder in Sheron, Lundstrum plus one other (so long as it's not Shelton) in the middle should elevate us and Ward also gives us options in there when fit. yep 433 and on the front foot high press. its actual basic AF maybe thats been our problem. sending out players to not tackle must be confusing as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 hours ago, yarddog73 said: I just hope Unsworth stumbles across the solution because he come across like he doesn't have a plan and that worries me. Is that just in case we start winning well? I would hope you'd be a bit more gracious than that given you've been one of the more outspoken regarding DU. I am not yet convinced DU will pull through, but I would say with better finishing the results would have improved if not the eye catching performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 7:23 PM, GlossopLatic said: Gardner Hope and Mgahey are the players here from the previous regime. I imagine we had to pay out for the likes of Leutweiller and Rooney. Also while we are ahead of other club's at our level interms of infrastructure. We are way behind other club's for things such as training facilities and the overall state of Boundary Park. Yes booing definitely makes a difference. You can argue its important to shut the noise out and yes they just concentrate on their game and they should but they are only human and they will hear things. As supporter for the last 30 years I do things that try and make me not fallout of love with the club. Going to every single away game is one of them. If I get to a stage where I'm regularly hurling abuse at the players and or the manager of the team that I support if it gets to that stage I'm just going to stop going because it's not worth me spending time and money on stuff that's going to make me angry it achieves nothing. Gardner wouldn’t sign until Abdallah had gone, Hope was given a new deal this summer and Rooney was signed by Unsworth. I’ll give you Mgahey and Leutweiller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 If this league is as piss poor as people make out. And if our squad is as good as people make out but being held back by Unsworth, then he can be given the 15 games and after that a new manager would obviously win most of the remaining games and we'd be in the playoffs, so no need to worry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 This spot has come to a heed and high time somebody squeezed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Littlemoor Lad said: This spot has come to a heed and high time somebody squeezed it this sums it up for me. you shudnt squeeze spots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Littlemoor Lad said: You've said all that ever needs saying right there What's the bloody point? Well I must admit, I’ve been out all day and having just returned to see Unsworth telling Suzanna that he is looking to make some fairly big changes to the squad does make it slightly harder to stay zen! I had thought we were told we were doing our business early and hitting the ground running….it’s actually the opposite with no settled formation, no clear starting eleven and a bloated squad with several players out of favour and others who only seem to get game time in proportion to the fans social media “feedback” I honestly think the team is picked by outside influence, including ours, each week! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 8 hours ago, Monty Burns said: this sums it up for me. you shudnt squeeze spots. I know but sometimes it's unavoidable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 8 hours ago, Ritchierich said: Well I must admit, I’ve been out all day and having just returned to see Unsworth telling Suzanna that he is looking to make some fairly big changes to the squad does make it slightly harder to stay zen! I had thought we were told we were doing our business early and hitting the ground running….it’s actually the opposite with no settled formation, no clear starting eleven and a bloated squad with several players out of favour and others who only seem to get game time in proportion to the fans social media “feedback” I honestly think the team is picked by outside influence, including ours, each week! 'hit the ground running' actually came from me l think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 11 hours ago, mcfluff1985 said: If this league is as piss poor as people make out. And if our squad is as good as people make out but being held back by Unsworth, then he can be given the 15 games and after that a new manager would obviously win most of the remaining games and we'd be in the playoffs, so no need to worry There won’t be a new manager though. The run of fixtures coming up will probably see us rise up to ninth or tenth. That wouldn’t have been acceptable at the start of the season but would now been seen as ‘just outside the playoffs.’ Unless we’re dragged into a relegation battle(which we won’t be) he won’t be going anywhere for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 15 hours ago, TheBigDog said: ‘straight away’ = twelve months no prizes in september POM GOM MOM dont count!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 46 minutes ago, Steve_R said: There won’t be a new manager though. The run of fixtures coming up will probably see us rise up to ninth or tenth. That wouldn’t have been acceptable at the start of the season but would now been seen as ‘just outside the playoffs.’ Unless we’re dragged into a relegation battle(which we won’t be) he won’t be going anywhere for a while. These so called easier teams won't lie down and let us roll over them, they know we are dysfunctional outfit on the field and will look to take advantage of yet more upcoming changes with maybe some players not having a pre season and the excuse of needing time to gel. We were promised a lean and superfit squad so how has it finished up the opposite and practically back to square one after a year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 minute ago, BP1960 said: These so called easier teams won't lie down and let us roll over them, they know we are dysfunctional outfit on the field and will look to take advantage of yet more upcoming changes with maybe some players not having a pre season and the excuse of needing time to gel. We were promised a lean and superfit squad so how has it finished up the opposite and practically back to square one after a year? lm not seeing an unfit squad. anybody else? one or two recently aquired signings not match fit is not an unfit squad!! also, once again, this seems to be a new, very strange phenomenon building in the openly out camp where signing players is a bad thing. l'm laughing but l shouldn't be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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