Wardie Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Littlemoor Lad said: Just logged in and all I can say is THANK YOU LORD! my prayers have finally been answered Now, with the shackles off, I can't wait to see us get more wins on the board, with fast, flowing, entertaining football, especially at home I think that may not come immediately but, there may be more bums on seats than there would have been and hopefully some good vocal support to spur on a much needed win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Just a side point. How can bookies offer a market on new managers when it’s a known outcome to a few people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkleking Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, League one forever said: Just a side point. How can bookies offer a market on new managers when it’s a known outcome to a few people? Who is the known outcome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Sparkleking said: Who is the known outcome? No, what I mean is. People place bets on the next manager, but in this instance Frank and Darren will know who it will be before the market closes. It’s always been odd to me that bookies offer a market on what is essentially a decision made by a few people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, League one forever said: Just a side point. How can bookies offer a market on new managers when it’s a known outcome to a few people? thats the same as almost anything in life and why 'insider trading' convictions are sometimes just a fit up of somebody doing what everybody else is doing! its also why Cricket keeps uncovering spot fixing and why Matt Le Tissier ever sprinted in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Wardie said: I think that may not come immediately but, there may be more bums on seats than there would have been and hopefully some good vocal support to spur on a much needed win. It'll take around 10 to 15 games and hopefully the new man will get more than 1 win 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Monty Burns said: thats the same as almost anything in life and why 'insider trading' convictions are sometimes just a fit up of somebody doing what everybody else is doing! its also why Cricket keeps uncovering spot fixing and why Matt Le Tissier ever sprinted in his career. Spot fixing is cheating though- making a decision about a manager isn’t. You can’t cheat a whole game of football or cricket because 22 players plus the managers have to be in on it. I don’t think there’s anything like it- it’s just odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, League one forever said: No, what I mean is. People place bets on the next manager, but in this instance Frank and Darren will know who it will be before the market closes. It’s always been odd to me that bookies offer a market on what is essentially a decision made by a few people. They won't allow much more than a tenner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: thats the same as almost anything in life and why 'insider trading' convictions are sometimes just a fit up of somebody doing what everybody else is doing! its also why Cricket keeps uncovering spot fixing and why Matt Le Tissier ever sprinted in his career. My one time assistant was, along with about half a dozen of his mates, the first person to get jailed for insider dealing in the country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbaltipie Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, League one forever said: No, what I mean is. People place bets on the next manager, but in this instance Frank and Darren will know who it will be before the market closes. It’s always been odd to me that bookies offer a market on what is essentially a decision made by a few people. Its a lucrative market for the bookies, for instance the list as it stands is a guessing game so plenty of cash will be put down on what is currently a lottery, then theres the usual rumour mill which sees big money put down on a punt, usually made by my mate spoke to his mate and his mate says so and so's got the job and its a dead cert. By the time the real contenders are in the mix theres a fair kitty to fall back on so then the bookies just shorten the odds and sometimes even limit the amount on individuals bets place to limit their exposure, by which time they have already cleaned up. Edited September 17, 2023 by chickenbaltipie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I’ve been one of the DU out brigade since very, very early in his tenure but tbh I have no idea regarding his replacement…mainly because it is such a results based business and frankly, very few managers are successful at every club they manage so it will be about finding the right “fit” and you really don’t know until you try it. That said, a bit of experience wouldn’t go amiss….more nouse, less scouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, chickenbaltipie said: Its a lucrative market for the bookies, for instance the list as it stands is a guessing game so plenty of cash will be put down on what is currently a lottery, then theres the usual rumour mill which sees big money put down on a punt, usually made by my mate spoke to his mate and his mate says so and so's got the job and its a dead cert. By the time the real contenders are in the mix theres a fair kitty to fall back on so then the bookies just shorten the odds and sometimes even limit the amount on individuals bets place to limit their exposure, by which time they have already cleaned up. Cheers. Never thought of it that way, I was looking at from the actual decision point of view, but as you say there’s money to be made - particularly in the early stages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollandspies Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1. Pete Wild 2. Kevin Maher 3. Mike Williamson 4. Darrell Clarke 5. The Cowleys’ I’ve not picked these guys in any order of preference, but they have been finalised as my 5 first choices, duly considered with a smile, before, during and after a lovely Sunday roast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Dave_Og said: My one time assistant was, along with about half a dozen of his mates, the first person to get jailed for insider dealing in the country. l actually expected a reply telling me lm overthinking it and its all fair and regulated. like horse racing!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 6 hours ago, League one forever said: Spot fixing is cheating though- making a decision about a manager isn’t. You can’t cheat a whole game of football or cricket because 22 players plus the managers have to be in on it. I don’t think there’s anything like it- it’s just odd. l just view everything as corrupt l think. weirdly lm constantly being stung for trusting people or being naiive!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Wild is a complete non-starter. I'm placing complete trust in the board this time to go through a proper recruitment process. I wouldn't rule out Thompson or Mark Jackson, ex MK Don's manager... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles or Eddie Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 What has wild done thats so incredible and has most people foaming at the mouth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Charles or Eddie said: What has wild done thats so incredible and has most people foaming at the mouth? foaming at the mouth means angry. so, firstly, nowt. secondly . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsLegend Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Wild is a complete non-starter. I'm placing complete trust in the board this time to go through a proper recruitment process. I wouldn't rule out Thompson or Mark Jackson, ex MK Don's manager... 6 months experience whilst MK went down before they binned him. Former defender with the bulk of his experience academy level. Not sure why we'd take that risk again. Far better options out there with first team experience. Edited September 18, 2023 by LaticsLegend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Clearly nobody has much of a clue with the market being as open as this https://www.bettingodds.com/thesackrace/teams/oldham-athletic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 56 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: I'm placing complete trust in the board this time to go through a proper recruitment process. This is where I am at - I have no idea who will be the right man for the job. I too trust the board to do things properly this time and carry out a process that brings in the man to improve our on pitch performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) total trust and l'll ridiculously back. as per. nearly all of us want them to get it right, no excuse for any more disharmony now. lets grab our toys up and make it Franks Fortress Edited September 18, 2023 by Monty Burns it's not really copywritten, registered or trade marked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Think there are a few bad characters in dressing room who need rooting out so don't think it is a job for a rookie. D. Clarke could potentially could be a very good fit if the project is attractive enough for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShireBlue Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Mellon or Clarke for me. They have the experience at both National League and League 2 and have promotions on their C.Vs. Both being out of work will avoid the need for paying-off a club. Not sure if the Cowleys would drop down to NL. I suppose it depends if they’ve been knocked-back from other EFL jobs and fancy ‘starting again’. I’d have thought the job will get plenty of interest and will appeal, especially with our squad and off the field set-up. Hopefully the new manager will wave at the crowd enough. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBigDog said: This is where I am at - I have no idea who will be the right man for the job. I too trust the board to do things properly this time and carry out a process that brings in the man to improve our on pitch performance. Me too, all about the process and getting that right and trusting it will deliver the best person for the job. I'd be interested in whether preferred candidates will be invited to apply/interview, or whether it will just be an open competition. Can see pros and cons for both approaches. They need to be clear about what they want beyond just wanting to win football matches. There's quite a lot on twitter about Oldham being a good "project", and of course we all want something sustainable, but there's still a good chance of promotion this season and I do think the FA Trophy final should be a target. But I do hope we go for a footballing manager, after 12 months of rhinoball it would be good to see some attractive attacking football. I'll still cheer us on if we're playing hoofball but I don't think that sits well with our fanbase. I'd like to see them involve the supporters and players in the process. Either have an OASF rep and the skipper/PFA rep (might be the same person, Hogan) on the panel, or do separate sessions. Given how important both are to our success they should be consulted pre-appointment. And they should have a football expert on the panel too, either a current manager/coach, or someone recently retired/sacked/resigned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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