Micky Mellon's Retained and Released List

[LightDN123]

Just now, Boyyou said:

Trouble is the budget will probably be reduced. EFL funding now ended and MM hinting that those under contract already make up the entirety of the budget. 

Still think we will have to sell/swop/move on a fair few - particularly higher earners - to create some wriggle room.

So the 18 players we have take us over budget ? Bull shit. 
 

If that is true, which it won’t be, even Frank and his family need to look at themselves because that’s not a football issue, that’s a basic business issue. 

[Boyyou]

Think I'm right in saying we will be about £400,000 worse off for next season now that parachute payments end.

The club went balls deep on backing DU's recruitment of players on 2/3 year contracts and it has backfired spectacularly. 

[PeteG]

16 minutes ago, LightDN123 said:

So the 18 players we have take us over budget ? Bull shit. 
 

If that is true, which it won’t be, even Frank and his family need to look at themselves because that’s not a football issue, that’s a basic business issue. 

Problem is, out of the 18 players contracted, i'm guessing it includes all of the big earners. However, if you offload Norwood that should in theory free up budget to bring in 2/3 decent players. Should be able to offload a couple of more so we should be looking at bringing at least 5/6 players getting only 3 out. You could then look to make up the squad with some youths and loans. However, it doesn't really scream we are going for promotion in a big way does it?

Edited April 21 by PeteG

[Boyyou]

4 minutes ago, PeteG said:

Problem is, out of the 18 players contracted, i'm guessing it includes all of the big earners. However, if you offload Norwood that should in theory free up budget to bring in 2/3 decent players. Should be able to offload a couple of more so we should be looking at bringing at least 5/6 players getting only 3 out. You could then look to make up the squad with some youths and loans. However, it doesn't really scream we are going for promotion in a big way does it?

Agreed, PeteG. We may need to shift some high earners. If we can get the right 5 or 6 in it could make a big difference. For all our troubles at the start and finish of the season we didn't end a million miles from the play-offs- and they have to be the aim.

A more comprehensive rejig of the squad can only really come when contracts are up the following summer.

[mick26]

1 hour ago, LightDN123 said:

I am struggling to get my head around the notion that we will have to many players. 
 

We have 18 contracted players. Worse case scenario we can only shift on 2 players under contract (will be more) so that’s 16 players. 
 

Squad of 24, so we have room for 8 more players surely ? 
 

8 signings changes this side completely. 

8 good signings! (4 or 5 would do).

[BP1960]

42 minutes ago, LightDN123 said:

So the 18 players we have take us over budget ? Bull shit. 
 

If that is true, which it won’t be, even Frank and his family need to look at themselves because that’s not a football issue, that’s a basic business issue. 

 

Didn't that happen to Portsmouth when in the Premiership with disastrous repercussions?

 

[LightDN123]

2 hours ago, PeteG said:

Problem is, out of the 18 players contracted, i'm guessing it includes all of the big earners. However, if you offload Norwood that should in theory free up budget to bring in 2/3 decent players. Should be able to offload a couple of more so we should be looking at bringing at least 5/6 players getting only 3 out. You could then look to make up the squad with some youths and loans. However, it doesn't really scream we are going for promotion in a big way does it?

No no, I think you are missing the point. 
 

If we have recruited a squad of 30 plus players and 18 of those alone who are here next season take us over the budget for the next season, someone needs the sack from the board room. 
 

I doubt it’s true, but I’d have serious concerns about the owners competence if it is. 

[BradKnowles1]

4 hours ago, mick26 said:

Fair enough but think we need better. Budget probably dictates he's the best we can get (hopefully for the bench).

From what I was told we are spending again. 

[yarddog73]

17 minutes ago, BradKnowles1 said:

From what I was told we are spending again. 

You're generally wrong though to be fair.

[BradKnowles1]

1 hour ago, yarddog73 said:

You're generally wrong though to be fair.

Hit and miss but this is from a credible source 

[Dave_Og]

Are there any budget restrictions etc. in this league?

[Boyyou]

9 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

Are there any budget restrictions etc. in this league?

Believe I'm right in saying there is no salary cap or FFP in the National League.

[yarddog73]

9 minutes ago, Dave_Og said:

Are there any budget restrictions etc. in this league?

Surely teams like Oxford would struggle with 500 home fans if that was the case?.

 

Be good if it was linked to revenue as we would be at a huge advantage next season.

[yarddog73]

20 minutes ago, BradKnowles1 said:

Hit and miss but this is from a credible source 

Is that Darren Royle I take it then?.

[Boyyou]

1 minute ago, yarddog73 said:

Surely teams like Oxford would struggle with 500 home fans if that was the case?.

 

Be good if it was linked to revenue as we would be at a huge advantage next season.

Not stopped the likes of Solihull, Gateshead, Halifax, Bromley,  etc, who must all have lower revenues.

It's not always what you earn, but how you spend it.

[Boyyou]

3 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

Is that Darren Royle I take it then?.

Didn't think DR was credible in your eyes yarddog73 

[oafc1955]

2 hours ago, BradKnowles1 said:

From what I was told we are spending again. 

If that’s the case, somebody really ought to have informed MM before that interview yesterday!

[GlossopLatic]

Look at the teams around us in the top 7 even if we had reduced the budget by 20% we would still have a top 7 budget this season I don't think we will drop it by that much. We are going to lose the efl money yes but the mothballing of the academy will offset alot of that. So I don't think we are going to see a drastic drop in the actual budget it will be very competitive for this level. 

Edited April 21 by GlossopLatic

[Dave_Og]

13 hours ago, yarddog73 said:

Surely teams like Oxford would struggle with 500 home fans if that was the case?.

 

 

 

They did

[BP1960]

When will be retained list be announced?

[StoodinaBoshell]

1 hour ago, BP1960 said:

When will be retained list be announced?

 

Just looking at last season. Last year our season ended 29 April. We had the released list by 1 May. I guess it depends on whether decisions are still being made.

[Lukers1]

1 hour ago, BP1960 said:

When will be retained list be announced?

I believe the players find out tomorrow.

[Littlemoor Lad]

33 minutes ago, Lukers1 said:

I believe the players find out tomorrow.

Should of saved them the wait and cleared out their lockers straight after the game.

[Bobledgersheart]

51 minutes ago, Lukers1 said:

I believe the players find out tomorrow.

They've played like some of them knew in February.

[LaticMark]

On 4/21/2024 at 2:40 PM, PeteG said:

Problem is, out of the 18 players contracted, i'm guessing it includes all of the big earners. However, if you offload Norwood that should in theory free up budget to bring in 2/3 decent players. Should be able to offload a couple of more so we should be looking at bringing at least 5/6 players getting only 3 out. 

 

We also need to get Nuttall off the wage bill as well. He's supposed to be the club's 2nd biggest earner! Dickenson is the highest earner who's out of contract according to Salary Sport. Those 3 would 'save' around £6,700 a week if their figures are anywhere near correct!