leeslover Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, palmer1 said: would love to see some stats to back that up rather than just the standard line trotted out year on year. Back in the day we always finished the season strong even with nothing to play for. I'm pretty sure we've more or less packed it in after getting to safety the last few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, palmer1 said: would love to see some stats to back that up rather than just the standard line trotted out year on year. Back in the day we always finished the season strong even with nothing to play for. 2015/2016 season we were safe with 2 games to go, our last 2 matches were away at Millwall lost 3-0 and at home to Coventry which we also lost 2-0. If that's not on the beach I don't know what is. 2016/2017 we were safe after we beat Bolton at home 1-0, we then played 3 more games and failed to win any of them, Bristol Rovers away lost 1-0, Rochdale home drew 1-1 and Wimbledon away drew 0-0. Teams do ease up after they get safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 The theory has been shown to be mainly bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Just now, deyres42 said: The theory has been shown to be mainly bollocks. Not where Latics are concerned in the last 2 seasons its not, I was at that Coventry game, we never broke sweat, and nobody cared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Hometownclub said: 2015/2016 season we were safe with 2 games to go, our last 2 matches were away at Millwall lost 3-0 and at home to Coventry which we also lost 2-0. If that's not on the beach I don't know what is. 2016/2017 we were safe after we beat Bolton at home 1-0, we then played 3 more games and failed to win any of them, Bristol Rovers away lost 1-0, Rochdale home drew 1-1 and Wimbledon away drew 0-0. Teams do ease up after they get safe. Except Northampton against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Hometownclub said: 2015/2016 season we were safe with 2 games to go, our last 2 matches were away at Millwall lost 3-0 and at home to Coventry which we also lost 2-0. If that's not on the beach I don't know what is. 2016/2017 we were safe after we beat Bolton at home 1-0, we then played 3 more games and failed to win any of them, Bristol Rovers away lost 1-0, Rochdale home drew 1-1 and Wimbledon away drew 0-0. Teams do ease up after they get safe. So your example of every club being on the beach is us over the last few years who have been nothing but shit consistently all season and constantly fighting for our lives. Any stats from other clubs over a long period or just opinion. We didn't win in 9 against any other teams who 'were on the beach' I assume your argument for that is because we are crap because all our holidaying opponents picked up points which doesn't fit your theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, palmer1 said: So your example of every club being on the beach is us over the last few years who have been nothing but shit consistently all season and constantly fighting for our lives. Any stats from other clubs over a long period or just opinion. We didn't win in 9 against any other teams who 'were on the beach' I assume your argument for that is because we are crap because all our holidaying opponents picked up points which doesn't fit your theory. You maybe right Palmer, has there been something endemic at this club for years about players under different managers not being able to lift themselves for the vast majority games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: Its way too early at this stage to say how we are going to do at the moment we really have no idea what the team is going to look like on the first day of the season let alone the squad over the whole year. We still have no real idea of what Lemsagams grand plan is. Once our summer transfer activity is done then we can set expectations Surely it shouldn't be anything other than to get us promoted as soon as possible? The expectation that we get promoted straight away started when the final whistle against Northampton went. Plans should be in place now to get players in that will win us promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, JoeP said: Surely it shouldn't be anything other than to get us promoted as soon as possible? The expectation that we get promoted straight away started when the final whistle against Northampton went. Plans should be in place now to get players in that will win us promotion. That will cost money, we don't really know if there is any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Just now, deyres42 said: That will cost money, we don't really know if there is any. If there isn't, him buying an ailing football club wasn't the smartest move he's ever made! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, JoeP said: Surely it shouldn't be anything other than to get us promoted as soon as possible? The expectation that we get promoted straight away started when the final whistle against Northampton went. Plans should be in place now to get players in that will win us promotion. Well you would hope he is aiming for promotion but it depends how much spending power he is prepared to or is capable of giving the manager something we dont really know right now.. If we see 6-7 probably more of the right kind of players coming in then yes a promotion charge should be the expectation. But lets just see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I'm sure there are some but why would you want to own a football club and not want to be promoted? No idea what his budget is but AL DEFINITELY wants to get promoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, BP1960 said: You maybe right Palmer, has there been something endemic at this club for years about players under different managers not being able to lift themselves for the vast majority games? I think it's been mentioned a few times recently BP1960 but this club thanks to way it has been run for the last decade has a huge losing mentality running through it. If you have a boss/owner who employs arse kissing underlings who are only looking out for themselves and not the club's best interest pubicly telling the world that we are already punching above our weight then what do you aim for? We're already over achieving aren't we? Corney, Barry etc have so much to answer for not just financial and It's the first thing that Lemmy and Wellens have to address. The mentality has to change! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, leeslover said: I'm sure there are some but why would you want to own a football club and not want to be promoted? No idea what his budget is but AL DEFINITELY wants to get promoted. You wouldn't want to get relegated and that has already happened under his tenure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longlostfan Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 6 hours ago, palmer1 said: would love to see some stats to back that up rather than just the standard line trotted out year on year. Back in the day we always finished the season strong even with nothing to play for. I'm not so sure about that. Seem to remember losing 3-5 at home to an already relegated Hereford in about 76/77, and a few other no one cares games in subsequent seasons. Remember others where the opposition cared more than our lot. Losing heavily to City with Dickov running around like a wasp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Posted without comment... http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/05/22/por-french-duo-target-oldhams-gardner/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Posted without comment... http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/05/22/por-french-duo-target-oldhams-gardner/ “The skilful midfielder” ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, deyres42 said: You wouldn't want to get relegated and that has already happened under his tenure... Can't argue against them facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamoafc Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 25 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Posted without comment... http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/05/22/por-french-duo-target-oldhams-gardner/ Think may happen with a few of our French lads aswell. Money will start flowing then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 hours ago, palmer1 said: I think it's been mentioned a few times recently BP1960 but this club thanks to way it has been run for the last decade has a huge losing mentality running through it. If you have a boss/owner who employs arse kissing underlings who are only looking out for themselves and not the club's best interest pubicly telling the world that we are already punching above our weight then what do you aim for? We're already over achieving aren't we? Corney, Barry etc have so much to answer for not just financial and It's the first thing that Lemmy and Wellens have to address. The mentality has to change! Whilst Barry was many things, I'm struggling to believe he did any team talks, much less have any influence over team performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, singe said: Whilst Barry was many things, I'm struggling to believe he did any team talks, much less have any influence over team performance. You'd be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, oafcmetty said: Posted without comment... http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/05/22/por-french-duo-target-oldhams-gardner/ From not being good enough for Division One to the Champions league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 When's Wellens back at work? Jeez I could so with a transfer or two plus an interview with AL to fire me up over the summer. Hopefully AL continues his stamp on the club with a new shirt manufacturer and sponsor. Going to be a loooong ten weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 57 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: You'd be surprised. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 11 hours ago, oafcmetty said: Posted without comment... http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/05/22/por-french-duo-target-oldhams-gardner/ Shining light? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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