yarddog73 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Which is what everyone should be saying really... I’m a little bit surprised certain people have suddenly become apologists for TTA, having spent years slagging off them and the North Stand situation. It might all all be fine of course. These are just questions from a lawyer which are easily answered if it’s all legit. So who else will have had this? Corney, Brooke, who else? I am presuming the same lawyers carried out the due diligence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, kowenicki said: I would imagine they have already spoken to him. His position has redefined conflict of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: I am presuming the same lawyers carried out the due diligence? Possibly? So what? People need to stop thinking that due diligence in M&A activity is always an all seeing eye. It isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Possibly? So what? People need to stop thinking that due diligence in M&A activity is always an all seeing eye. It isn’t. Maybe, but we are talking basic checks here. The deal with Brassbank was a friendly deal, so no doubt that there will holes and Blitz and Corney will have to pay any consequences for careltessness and rightly so. But the Council was also a friendly party, and reading the publicly available info, certian individuals will have had to received a simialr letter. Clearly much depends on the documentary backup, which they are clearly lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, singe said: Clearly much depends on the documentary backup, which they are clearly lacking. Yes good luck with getting either party to disclose anything that they don't really need to. Funny how a comprehensive set of accounts can't be leaked through the same channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, yarddog73 said: Yes good luck with getting either party to disclose anything that they don't really need to. Funny how a comprehensive set of accounts can't be leaked through the same channels. Ha! And not revela anything self incriminating. I hope Simon B has really good lawyers to sort them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 42 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: It certainly evidences why a trust representative might be reluctant to take up a board position It does. You could also argue the opposite and that both previous incumbents have done quite well out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 David Seligman @ Brandsmiths, used to work at CM solicitors.... who sponsored the back of our shirts during Corney’s time. It says on their website that he advised the club on a wide range of issue. Maybe he can help Brandsmiths in their investigation? https://www.cmsolicitors.co.uk/people/david-seligman-crime-sports-law Advising Oldham Athletic FC on a wide range of legal issues, including player sales and managerial appointments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, kowenicki said: So who else will have had this? Corney, Brooke, who else? hmmmm From memory..poss addtional ones of Hill, Gee, Kocheran, Companies house will have a track of it I think Edit: Missed one.... Joy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspiral_Carpet Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, lookersstandandy said: David Seligman @ Brandsmiths, used to work at CM solicitors.... who sponsored the back of our shirts during Corney’s time. It says on their website that he advised the club on a wide range of issue. Maybe he can help Brandsmiths in their investigation? https://www.cmsolicitors.co.uk/people/david-seligman-crime-sports-law Advising Oldham Athletic FC on a wide range of legal issues, including player sales and managerial appointments Covered under “Privilege”. He would lose his License to practice Law if he shared confidential information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I have no idea what they're hoping to gain from this. More than likely Corney filled his boots from the deal, he was the 97% owner and didn't give a fuck what anyone else on the Board thought (hence loads of people joining and leaving soon after). Even if he proves it was all a big scheme to shaft the club nobody is going to just hand the OEC over to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoutsider Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, kowenicki said: Which is what everyone should be saying really... I’m a little bit surprised certain people have suddenly become apologists for TTA, having spent years slagging off them and the North Stand situation. It might all all be fine of course. These are just questions from a lawyer which are easily answered if it’s all legit. So who else will have had this? Corney, Brooke, who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, lookersstandandy said: David Seligman @ Brandsmiths, used to work at CM solicitors.... who sponsored the back of our shirts during Corney’s time. It says on their website that he advised the club on a wide range of issue. Maybe he can help Brandsmiths in their investigation? https://www.cmsolicitors.co.uk/people/david-seligman-crime-sports-law Advising Oldham Athletic FC on a wide range of legal issues, including player sales and managerial appointments Which would be illegal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, leeslover said: I have no idea what they're hoping to gain from this. More than likely Corney filled his boots from the deal, he was the 97% owner and didn't give a fuck what anyone else on the Board thought (hence loads of people joining and leaving soon after). Even if he proves it was all a big scheme to shaft the club nobody is going to just hand the OEC over to him. maybe querying the ownership of the Royle stand and the landlords right to sell it? poss spanner in the works for the FLG buying it from landlords. on going dispute possibly tying all up in legal stuff for a bit. just my thoughts. bit naughty that leaked letter. Surely GDPR breached and I know Si B has been away most of this week as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 All a bit of a mess isn’t it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, kowenicki said: Which would be illegal... .....laughable though isn’t it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 5 hours ago, kowenicki said: Possibly? So what? People need to stop thinking that due diligence in M&A activity is always an all seeing eye. It isn’t. I honestly believe if AL had got any further into this due diligence (if that is possible with hidden pop up debts like the Perimeter Boards etc.) we wouldn't have a club right now for 1 of two reasons: 1) either the amount of time it would've taken to unravel all the previous owners shit would've seen the already closing walls of frozen bank accounts, player embargoes, HMRC court orders close in and finish us off (so it was get us bought and tackle what came next) or 2) he would've said "fuck this" and walked. And there would've been nobody coming in after him. We were on the absolute edge around that time. Apparently things are worse now tho (unless folk this it is just about league positions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: I honestly believe if AL had got any further into this due diligence (if that is possible with hidden pop up debts like the Perimeter Boards etc.) we wouldn't have a club right now for 1 of two reasons: 1) either the amount of time it would've taken to unravel all the previous owners shit would've seen the already closing walls of frozen bank accounts, player embargoes, HMRC court orders close in and finish us off (so it was get us bought and tackle what came next) or 2) he would've said "fuck this" and walked. And there would've been nobody coming in after him. We were on the absolute edge around that time. Apparently things are worse now tho (unless folk this it is just about league positions) Bury are a millions miles worse off than us and they had plenty of interest before theywent under. At least now (as if it wasn’t already to plenty of us) it’s obvious that the underlying reason for your unwillingness to accept a crook for what he is in Al is that you think he’s the only person who would have saved us from oblivion. And as for your last comment, you know full well this isn’t about league positions so stick your silly fucking emojis up your naive arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 48 minutes ago, sjk2008 said: Bury are a millions miles worse off than us and they had plenty of interest before theywent under. At least now (as if it wasn’t already to plenty of us) it’s obvious that the underlying reason for your unwillingness to accept a crook for what he is in Al is that you think he’s the only person who would have saved us from oblivion. And as for your last comment, you know full well this isn’t about league positions so stick your silly fucking emojis up your naive arse. Ahhh, the dimmest bulb in the box has spoken...Bury had that much interest willing to part with their money.....that they went BUST! You fool AL parted with his money and still does. Bellends like you want to drive him out. Some of us want him to learn from mistakes (some he has, some he hasn't) and are ok with giving him the time to do that. And we both know if we start going up the league table it'll go quiet again. So stick that up your naive arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Am I understanding this correctly that you want the Trust - who you think are useless - to approach the parties who were interested in buying Bury (but didn’t) and suddenly not be useless and present compelling reasons that they should instead buy our club (which isn’t actually for sale)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Am I understanding this correctly that you want the Trust - who you think are useless - to approach the parties who were interested in buying Bury (but didn’t) and suddenly not be useless and present compelling reasons that they should instead buy our club (which isn’t actually for sale)? No, that's Emily Thornberry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 With all the sticking it up arses going on it feels as though I have logged in to one of those dodgy websites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFC1984 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, disjointed said: With all the sticking it up arses going on it feels as though I have logged in to one of those dodgy websites. Youd get a lot less shit on those Id wager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 No-one or group would in any way want to buy the club at the moment, until all this is sorted out. No matter what we want, AL isn't going anywhere. He may think that he can get his hands on the OEC without paying a penny for it, or at least be part owner, if proof can't be found as to what went on in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, boundaryblue80 said: Some of us want him to learn from mistakes (some he has, some he hasn't) and are ok with giving him the time to do that. I would think that the majority want him to learn from his mistakes. My problem with him is that I can't see where he is learning. Is there one single aspect of the club that is currently flourishing or at least on the up under his ownership? I am genuinely looking for positives but am struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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