Dave_Og Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, Lee Sinnott said: I suspect they will for some sides, although doesn't seem to have affected Stockport County... can't say I've followed their activity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Perhaps the budgets in the NL next season will be commensurately smaller "We asked if the figure mentioned at the recent fans forum was correct at £200k per month and Abdallah said sometimes more, sometimes less." Sometimes less most months next season then...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Happy Anniversary... You know as well as I do, Eyresy, that we must thank the great man for ensuring we aren't Bury... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: "We asked if the figure mentioned at the recent fans forum was correct at £200k per month and Abdallah said sometimes more, sometimes less." Sometimes less most months next season then...? Didn't the accounts that were submitted the other week show that it was nothing like 200k...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Didn't the accounts that were submitted the other week show that it was nothing like 200k...? Believe so. If we get £450k tv money, that leaves £450k to fund, or ~40k a month. And that doesn't include any ticketing income, or prize money etc. If we're budgeting for 900k, that suggests he really doesn't want to put much money in at all, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Didn't the accounts that were submitted the other week show that it was nothing like 200k...? In the accounts thread it said we made a loss of £600k for 2018-19 so thats £50k a month. However what Philipa highlighted and what I think is a major concern too is the £2million of trade creditors on the balance sheet. That suggests we owe alot of people money. As at the end of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy55555 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Believe so. If we get £450k tv money, that leaves £450k to fund, or ~40k a month. And that doesn't include any ticketing income, or prize money etc. If we're budgeting for 900k, that suggests he really doesn't want to put much money in at all, does it? Pretty sure there are other costs other than the playing budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, dannyboy55555 said: Pretty sure there are other costs other than the playing budget. If you owned the stadium, rather than just the badge. There is Mo's scouting trips, suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Lee Sinnott said: The gaffer reckons we have a budget of 900k, which he says is a budget you would usually find in the National League... If my math's are correct, (a bit iffy these days) that's about an average £700pw for a squad of 25. No wonder we are missing out on signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, al_bro said: If my math's are correct, (a bit iffy these days) that's about an average £700pw for a squad of 25. No wonder we are missing out on signings. Eh? Don’t you mean circa 17k a week? £700 pw would mean we’re paying our top earner £40 a week. Hang on. . . you might be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, singe said: If you owned the stadium, rather than just the badge. There is Mo's scouting trips, suppose. Medical Transport Hotels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc 123 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, League one forever said: Eh? Don’t you mean circa 17k a week? £700 pw would mean we’re paying our top earner £40 a week. Hang on. . . you might be right. If you divide 25 into £17K, its roughly £700 each a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, al_bro said: If my math's are correct, (a bit iffy these days) that's about an average £700pw for a squad of 25. No wonder we are missing out on signings. Think they want a squad of 20 + YT lads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, oafc 123 said: If you divide 25 into £17K, its roughly £700 each a week Ah. As you were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Think they want a squad of 20 + YT lads... That's an average of about £860pw then. Still not much these days. Hope they can keep them fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, League one forever said: Medical Transport Hotels. Being less flippant for a second, I'm going to try and have a look what he does pay for. I don't think the hotels is too significant, I don't think we stay over that often. The Ground staff are on the Contact Us page. CEO. Admin Ticket staff. Electricity/Utility Catering Media Will try and find out a bit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, al_bro said: That's an average of about £860pw then. Still not much these days. Hope they can keep them fit. I’ve always found interesting how a club divides its budget- no matter the level. 17k for 20 players 4 @ 1500 pw 6 @ 1000 pw 10 @ 500 pw. Do people think that’s fair, or it’s weighted differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 minute ago, singe said: Being less flippant for a second, I'm going to try and have a look what he does pay for. I don't think the hotels is too significant, I don't think we stay over that often. The Ground staff are on the Contact Us page. CEO. Admin Ticket staff. Electricity/Utility Catering Media Will try and find out a bit more Yeah, I don’t think fans always grasp the Cost of the non playing side of any football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, singe said: Being less flippant for a second, I'm going to try and have a look what he does pay for. I don't think the hotels is too significant, I don't think we stay over that often. The Ground staff are on the Contact Us page. CEO. Admin Ticket staff. Electricity/Utility Catering Media Will try and find out a bit more I guess the foreign players start in a hotel, then share houses. No doubt the hotel bill will be picked up by the club, but the rent when they move into a house, will be down to them. That's an expense which could be avoided by not signing foreign players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, al_bro said: I guess the foreign players start in a hotel, then share houses. No doubt the hotel bill will be picked up by the club, but the rent when they move into a house, will be down to them. That's an expense which could be avoided by not signing foreign players. Not really, you still have that when players are relocating from down south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 4 hours ago, oafcmetty said: If we're budgeting for 900k, that suggests he really doesn't want to put much money in at all, does it? Or that he doesn’t have much money to put in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, al_bro said: I guess the foreign players start in a hotel, then share houses. No doubt the hotel bill will be picked up by the club, but the rent when they move into a house, will be down to them. That's an expense which could be avoided by not signing foreign players. True. The infamous Malmaison bill now psrings to mind. you'd hope we've not done that for a while. but most of the French contingent must have a house by now surely? Most of the Jan signings were local.But th likes of McCann, Johnny Smith you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworth blue Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 6 hours ago, singe said: Being less flippant for a second, I'm going to try and have a look what he does pay for. I don't think the hotels is too significant, I don't think we stay over that often. The Ground staff are on the Contact Us page. CEO. Admin Ticket staff. Electricity/Utility Catering Media Will try and find out a bit more I also suspect that the owner/ club is still in the process of paying off industrial tribunals/ staff who have been sacked as well, all resources that could have been better utilised if there hadn't been crazy mismanagement on an industrial scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 It would seem most are under whelmed with the standard of player signed or to be signed. Complain the owner doesn't appear to want to put too much money in and the reported budget is substandard. Yet are openly happy to tell the rest of the fans they ain't going till the owner leaves. You can't have it all ways round. By all means vote with your feet, if that's your choice, but don't moan the club can't afford what you want. Before the keyboards start clattering, I ain't saying the owner didn't need to buck up, nor Barry got everything right or it's all these pesky fans fault. The truth is somewhere in the middle of all that. For me the real rot started the day the 3A carved up the good for themselves and left us with the bad. Corney just drove in the final nails. We are where we are now, and if we the fans don't at least try to back the club, then lets not moan and point the finger when it dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris15Arm Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, Lags said: It would seem most are under whelmed with the standard of player signed or to be signed. Complain the owner doesn't appear to want to put too much money in and the reported budget is substandard. Yet are openly happy to tell the rest of the fans they ain't going till the owner leaves. You can't have it all ways round. By all means vote with your feet, if that's your choice, but don't moan the club can't afford what you want. Before the keyboards start clattering, I ain't saying the owner didn't need to buck up, nor Barry got everything right or it's all these pesky fans fault. The truth is somewhere in the middle of all that. For me the real rot started the day the 3A carved up the good for themselves and left us with the bad. Corney just drove in the final nails. We are where we are now, and if we the fans don't at least try to back the club, then lets not moan and point the finger when it dies. Very well put. I always struggle to explain my views without lookin like I'm an AL fan. I'll never stop goin to watch my team whenever i possibly can, whoever's wearing the shirt. Wether its messi or le messique from French 20th division. Despite who the owner is I still want a club to watch. I watched during the more years when he drove us to near death, I watched corney struggle to admin. One thing AL does is pay the club through it (for now anyway, even though he leaves things till last min, he always pays up). So I'll suffer thru his poor signings and roumoured meddling, because I want to keep my club afloat. May be in vein but it's all I can do to do my bit. That being said I respect others choices, but those choices have to be lived by. N not moan. Just as I cant moan if I put my money in to tickets n shirts n it's all wasted by AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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