oafc 123 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: What a bizarre analogy. It would of made more sense if he compared the supporters who support the owner no matter what, with people who accept the renewal quote every year because of loyalty. Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 BBC Football Gossip this morning: Former Manchester United defender Cameron Borthwick-Jackson has agreed a one-year deal with Oldham Athletic. The 23-year-old is a free agent after being released by United last month. (Mail) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 10 hours ago, League one forever said: Yeah of course it works both ways. People who will not acknowledge in anyway the harm AL has done is equally as strange as those who will not acknowledge any positives (however small) Cobblers. I've acknowledged the Community Trust and the groundstaff/pitch. The problem is that is about it. The rest is desperately trying to make a positive out of practically thin air. For example, the oft touted George Edmunson deal a) it's looking a steal and b) it's 1 deal out of 70 players we've lost money on. Another example, the rumour Borthwick-Johnson deal-what is the point of a one year deal? We'll get no fee? The positives are scant and just clutching at straws and scraping the barrell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, singe said: Cobblers. I've acknowledged the Community Trust and the groundstaff/pitch. The problem is that is about it. The rest is desperately trying to make a positive out of practically thin air. For example, the oft touted George Edmunson deal a) it's looking a steal and b) it's 1 deal out of 70 players we've lost money on. Another example, the rumour Borthwick-Johnson deal-what is the point of a one year deal? We'll get no fee? The positives are scant and just clutching at straws and scraping the barrell. We’ll just ignore the two year deal for Dearnley then. Or the investment made inn Rowe. Football clubs make decisions all the time on the length of contract. But no it’s got to be implied AL IS SHAFTING US ON THE CBJ CONTRACT. Rangers bid 3 times for edmundson, and if the numerous reports at the time are to believed we got 650k- our biggest sale for many a year and dwarfing the many times Corney sold players for 150/200k. But let’s reframe that into AL GOT ROBBED AND CANT NEGOTIATE. Why can’t you credit club, without it being seen as defending AL?? It’s bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 I’ve nothing to add on the AL saint vs sinner debate, but on contract lengths - it’s plausible that CBJ refused to sign a longer deal, thinking that a year here puts him in the shop window. It’s also plausible that it’s a one-year deal with an option, which has been increasingly common from us lately and mitigates the risk of getting tied to long-term highly-paid failures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 45 minutes ago, Crusoe said: I’ve nothing to add on the AL saint vs sinner debate, but on contract lengths - it’s plausible that CBJ refused to sign a longer deal, thinking that a year here puts him in the shop window. It’s also plausible that it’s a one-year deal with an option, which has been increasingly common from us lately and mitigates the risk of getting tied to long-term highly-paid failures. From the Mail article: Borthwick-Jackson also had interest from MLS clubs but is looking to get a full season under his belt in League Two before taking stock of any other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Everyone was saying one year deals were a good thing this time last year, make your minds up lads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 5 hours ago, League one forever said: We’ll just ignore the two year deal for Dearnley then. Or the investment made inn Rowe. Football clubs make decisions all the time on the length of contract. But no it’s got to be implied AL IS SHAFTING US ON THE CBJ CONTRACT. Rangers bid 3 times for edmundson, and if the numerous reports at the time are to believed we got 650k- our biggest sale for many a year and dwarfing the many times Corney sold players for 150/200k. But let’s reframe that into AL GOT ROBBED AND CANT NEGOTIATE. Why can’t you credit club, without it being seen as defending AL?? It’s bizarre. I'm certainly not knocking one out at the thought of Dearnley and Rowe. I'll turn religious and pray they come good, but they've not done that much to excite me. Far bigger fear they will join the strikers graveyard. Nor Borthwick-JAckson. Fingers are firmly crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 hours ago, deyres42 said: Everyone was saying one year deals were a good thing this time last year, make your minds up lads... Wishing they were because they were crap is not the same as saying they are good thing. What everyone was saying, many times, is we need a complete overhaul and get rid of the deadwood. We've certainly done that . Again ref:See 15-16 season). Surely we have to have a decent recruitment for the first time in eons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick26 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, singe said: Surely we have to have a decent recruitment for the first time in eons. Mo and Baz "hold my beer (pie as appropriate)"!!!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 We can't afford Calvin Andrew apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, singe said: Surely we have to have a decent recruitment for the first time in eons. And already CBJ (if he signs) doesn't seem to satisfy your lofty expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 37 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: And already CBJ (if he signs) doesn't seem to satisfy your lofty expectations. I mean, come on. It can't just be me that's not excited by him on the evidence, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, singe said: I mean, come on. It can't just be me that's not excited by him on the evidence, surely? Like any signing you never know. But. At the very least he comes with good pedigree, and he’s a good age. His potential signing Is infinitely preferable to a lad from Auxerre reserves, who was loan at some french 5th division club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, League one forever said: Like any signing you never know. But. At the very least he comes with good pedigree, and he’s a good age. His potential signing Is infinitely preferable to a lad from Auxerre reserves, who was loan at some french 5th division club. That is pretty fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 53 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: We can't afford Calvin Andrew apparently. Players will have to lower their expectations eventually. No doubt they will as time passes. Clubs like FGR may be paying over the odds at the moment, but their owner probably doesn't care if it leads to promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 6 hours ago, al_bro said: Players will have to lower their expectations eventually. No doubt they will as time passes. Clubs like FGR may be paying over the odds at the moment, but their owner probably doesn't care if it leads to promotion. Smacks of the ex Bury owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbooth Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 10 hours ago, oafcmetty said: We can't afford Calvin Andrew apparently. Dino said he's one of a few we're looking at but didn't mention that bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShireBlue Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 16 hours ago, oafcmetty said: We can't afford Calvin Andrew apparently. Would prove useful if any opposition players need a cowardly elbow to the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 hours ago, ShireBlue said: Would prove useful if any opposition players need a cowardly elbow to the head. Should never play for Oldham Athletic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 45 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Should never play for Oldham Athletic Agree, I'd struggle to "get behind" someone capable of what he did to Clarke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 The gaffer reckons we have a budget of 900k, which he says is a budget you would usually find in the National League... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: The gaffer reckons we have a budget of 900k, which he says is a budget you would usually find in the National League... Perhaps the budgets in the NL next season will be commensurately smaller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Just now, Dave_Og said: Perhaps the budgets in the NL next season will be commensurately smaller I suspect they will for some sides, although doesn't seem to have affected Stockport County... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: The gaffer reckons we have a budget of 900k, which he says is a budget you would usually find in the National League... Happy Anniversary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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