deyres42 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Frankies6 said: Frankie Bunn got sacked for less, Keith Curle needs to be released from his Role, its obviously not working 16 games with only 4 wins.. shocking.. Bunn had an infinitely better squad of players than Curle does, bizarre that people still keep making the comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 39 minutes ago, League one forever said: He’s still here because he had the good sense to negotiate a two year deal and AL is unwilling to pay him off. Doubt many managers at this level get contracts paid up when dismissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Doubt many managers at this level get contracts paid up when dismissed. Oh I highly doubt he would get his full contract paid up. I’’m not sure many managers managers at any level do. (Maybe the very elite do) Remember when Pardew signed that 8 year contract at Newcastle? I remember people saying at the time it would have a break clause in it, so if he got sacked he would get a years pay. So a 6 or 12 month pay off for Curle is very plausible. Either way- it can be only reason he hasn’t gone because his record is woeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, League one forever said: Oh I highly doubt he would get his full contract paid up. I’’m not sure many managers managers at any level do. (Maybe the very elite do) Remember when Pardew signed that 8 year contract at Newcastle? I remember people saying at the time it would have a break clause in it, so if he got sacked he would get a years pay. So a 6 or 12 month pay off for Curle is very plausible. Either way- it can be only reason he hasn’t gone because his record is woeful. You'd imagine given the restrictions we are operating under that staying above the drop zone was the only target so he's doing the job expected of him. It might be dreadful to watch and he sure isn't an engaging personality but that's where we are unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Curle aftermath interview, the usual 'and again' telling the players he needs more. Why no question from the interviewer will he now ditch his beloved 3 centre backs formation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 8 hours ago, deyres42 said: You'd imagine given the restrictions we are operating under that staying above the drop zone was the only target so he's doing the job expected of him. It might be dreadful to watch and he sure isn't an engaging personality but that's where we are unfortunately. Yeah, as bad as he is- if we finish 22nd it’s job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 9 hours ago, deyres42 said: You'd imagine given the restrictions we are operating under that staying above the drop zone was the only target so he's doing the job expected of him. It might be dreadful to watch and he sure isn't an engaging personality but that's where we are unfortunately. I agree that the off-field issues are the biggest reason why we are where we are, but I believe the squad that we have is not playing near enough to it's full potential and that an average manager at this level could do better with it. I'm now at the point where I think Kewell could've done better with the current squad than Curle is doing. If his target is to stay up (which to be fair is a realistic one) then he's not looking particularly like hitting it that target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris15Arm Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 For me it's nothin to do with formation etc. Curle needs to go for a kewell approach. He sets us up defensively every game. We fail. We actually defend better when we are the attacking team. Back 3/4 always sweep up when we are on the front foot. We will concede goals however we play because the collective IQ of the squad being 5. Might as well go for it every match. We would easily have enough to move up the table away from danger. #bringbackkewell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankies6 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 10 hours ago, deyres42 said: Bunn had an infinitely better squad of players than Curle does, bizarre that people still keep making the comparison. Keep making excuses for Keith Curles poor record as manager is also bordering on bizarre.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, Chris15Arm said: For me it's nothin to do with formation etc. Curle needs to go for a kewell approach. He sets us up defensively every game. We fail. We actually defend better when we are the attacking team. Back 3/4 always sweep up when we are on the front foot. We will concede goals however we play because the collective IQ of the squad being 5. Might as well go for it every match. We would easily have enough to move up the table away from danger. #bringbackkewell I have to disagree, we haven't got the players who are comfortable or can operate his beloved 3 CDs formation. A flat back 4 of Clarke, Mcgahey, Piergianni and Hart means these players are in positions they have played most of their careers. Back them up with 2 wide men 2 in midfield and 2 up front (1 who can hold the ball and pressure defenders) then I'm sure performances and results will improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 40 minutes ago, Chris15Arm said: For me it's nothin to do with formation etc. Curle needs to go for a kewell approach. He sets us up defensively every game. We fail. We actually defend better when we are the attacking team. Back 3/4 always sweep up when we are on the front foot. We will concede goals however we play because the collective IQ of the squad being 5. Might as well go for it every match. We would easily have enough to move up the table away from danger. #bringbackkewell But in the absence of a single recognised and consistently fit striker I can see why he'd take that approach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, Frankies6 said: Keep making excuses for Keith Curles poor record as manager is also bordering on bizarre.. Iversen, Hunt, Clarke, Edmundson, Taylor, Nepo, Maouche, Missilou, Lang, Surridge, O'Grady, Baxter, Gardner, Lyden. I'd fancy Curle to have us a fair bit higher in the current table if he had that lot to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 50 minutes ago, the_mighty_bosh said: I agree that the off-field issues are the biggest reason why we are where we are, but I believe the squad that we have is not playing near enough to it's full potential and that an average manager at this level could do better with it. I'm now at the point where I think Kewell could've done better with the current squad than Curle is doing. If his target is to stay up (which to be fair is a realistic one) then he's not looking particularly like hitting it that target. He is an average manager at this level isn't he, I doubt anyone has more experience or knows it better than him. The fact he can't do anything with this squad tells you all you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 51 minutes ago, the_mighty_bosh said: I agree that the off-field issues are the biggest reason why we are where we are, but I believe the squad that we have is not playing near enough to it's full potential and that an average manager at this level could do better with it. I'm now at the point where I think Kewell could've done better with the current squad than Curle is doing. If his target is to stay up (which to be fair is a realistic one) then he's not looking particularly like hitting it that target. Kewell had McAleny, who created his own chances and scored them... Who, in this squad, scores the goals that Kewell's side managed last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 13 minutes ago, JoeP said: Kewell had McAleny, who created his own chances and scored them... Who, in this squad, scores the goals that Kewell's side managed last season? The three key players for me are Bahamboula, DKD and Dearnley. Dearnley is different as his injury and fitness issues have plagued him throughout, but all of the above had goalscoring spells under Kewell and looked like genuine goal threats in his team. While I have (marginally) more confidence in the defence I don't think that Curle has got the best out of our attacking players, even though the players aren't blameless themselves. McAleny has been a massive loss and Hope has not even been a replacement for Bobby Grant, let alone McAleny. But we should be seeing more from the other attackers than we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fervid Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Curle gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperKeeper Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 He was up against it, but always managed to make the worst of a bad situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Fervid said: Curle gone Is it subject to an MI5 secrecy order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-latic Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Fully expect to be in the minority, but I’d be happy with them giving Benachour a go. Seems to have done well with the youth and deserves a shot at the first team, same as when Wild took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Is Jim Gannon still knocking about the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 minute ago, JoeP said: Is Jim Gannon still knocking about the club? No! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, SweeperKeeper said: He was up against it, but always managed to make the worst of a bad situation. Well said. No doubt he had an poor squad- particularly up front, but his insistence on that back three alone was enough for the chop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careca9 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, JoeP said: Kewell had McAleny, who created his own chances and scored them... Who, in this squad, scores the goals that Kewell's side managed last season? he’s a loss but scored so many because of the tactics. His record pre his spell with us was v poor and so far this season he’s hardly created many himself, he hasn’t got 3 yet I don’t think. Can’t see he’d do much in current set up playing like we do. Hence pleased club have chopped curle. We need someone who is adaptable and can get best out of baha, dkd, dearnley, Bowden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Timing is ominous to say the least, approaching the window. Could mean 0 movement or sporting director fancy’s another go at bringing in the next urko Vera! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Thank for for that. More inclined to watch games now to be honest, depending on the appointment but it can’t be any worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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