Careca9 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 25 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: This. Even allowing for the poor hand that he has been dealt with (injuries and low standard footballers), Curle is failing on a number of fronts. He persists with a formation that the players simply don’t look comfortable with. He continues to play key players out of position. The balance in midfield, put simply, will never work. He has failed to get so many of the midfield and forwards to put in a tackle or work as a team to close down the opposition. In short he is not getting a shift out of too many of his starting eleven This is all the more evident when the young lads are thrown on. They at least show desire. He is extremely fortunate to still be in charge at the moment. And as for his snippet from his post match interview… ”It is what it is and I’ll deal with it” … we’ve heard this on too many occasions and the problem is that Curle is quite clearly NOT dealing with it I do have some sympathy with him but sadly I don’t think he has much time left to turn this around. totally agree. But harsh on the shift as apart from baha thgey are told to get back and get in shape so don’t close down. Fee that’s more tactics than them not putting shift in. Anyway I have no confidence he will sign what we need or play the best formation so I’m hoping he goes this week or very soon as we have the cup next week so no league damage for a fortnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 On 10/2/2021 at 7:38 PM, oafc1955 said: As in Fawlty Towers….. Keef Curle, specialist subject The bleedin obvious!!! His interviews are so predictable, if you played them back to back you would think he was just talking about one game!!! The players are not listening, they are shite, the formation is shite and there hasn’t been a single shred of improvement since the day he arrived!! Today he said if Armstrong had been playing up front for us we’d have won the game…..what about our own star striker who you targeted and then brought in? Absolute fucking shambles!!!! One month later exactly the same despite Curle's insistence he will change the situation. Sadly, I can see me re-posting @oafc55again in December if Curle is still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev1970 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 He needs to have a fresh look at what he is doing or go he is to set in his ways it worked once so keep it going is his way..A manger who plays a striker as a wing back really needs to go in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, kev1970 said: He needs to have a fresh look at what he is doing or go he is to set in his ways it worked once so keep it going is his way..A manger who plays a striker as a wing back really needs to go in my opinion. Thought he played Hope (less) there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev1970 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, Chaddyexile84 said: Thought he played Hope (less) there? Sorry meant to say sorry excuse of a striker we got another pup there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, kev1970 said: He needs to have a fresh look at what he is doing or go he is to set in his ways it worked once so keep it going is his way..A manger who plays a striker as a wing back really needs to go in my opinion. The right side was exposed yet again with no cover from the 3 deep lying feeble central midfielders. It took KC to half time to realise what we all saw could never work. Why can't he understand persisting with his negative tactics has got us to where we are and a change in philosophy is needed. He's clean sheet obsessed IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev1970 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, BP1960 said: The right side was exposed yet again with no cover from the 3 deep lying feeble central midfielders. It took KC to half time to realise what we all saw could never work. Why can't he understand persisting with his negative tactics has got us to where we are and a change in philosophy is needed. He's clean sheet obsessed IMO. Yes every game we play we get hit down that side why does he not see this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillside blue Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I went to the game yesterday and what a crock of crap it was. From the off Swindon looked the better side, at times it looked like men against boys, our midfield is very lightweight, playing our only recognised forward as a right back is baffling, Baha is not a target man, the majority of the high balls played up to him he doesn't win, sadly he is the only real creative player in the team, yet most of the time he has no one who links up with him. Swindon who were supposed to be this seasons basket case, have players who can move the ball at pace and the team works hard for each other, we don't, our passing is slow and at times ponderous, with the midfield predictable in their passing and movement. Swindon also committed men into the penalty area, again we don't, our build up is slow and should the ball get played into the penalty area there is often nobody there. When Hope did move into a more central forward role he did pose a threat, but without any sort of service or support he will not score goals, there is no creativity in this team going forward, we don't have the players, other than Baha who can take on the opposition, we have no other players who can take on the opposition and put decent balls into the the box. Swindon however, did that many times yesterday and caused no end of problems, the first goal being a prime example, we just seem to be relying on set pieces as our main goal threat and retaining our shape throughout the game. Come January we need at least 4-5 decent players, or its non-league next season and some of the current squad wouldn't even cut it at that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Would another manager get ay more out of the current squad. Especially with so many injuries. The main question is, why do we have so many injuries and so many hamstring injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, al_bro said: Would another manager get ay more out of the current squad. Especially with so many injuries. The main question is, why do we have so many injuries and so many hamstring injuries. The majority of our signings this season have had injury issues through their career Think Harts hamstring went early in his Blackburn days the old medical guy Harry has taken the blame and fallen on his sword - the new physio doesn’t seem to have improved matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 9 minutes ago, al_bro said: Would another manager get any more out of the current squad. Especially with so many injuries. The main question is, why do we have so many injuries and so many hamstring injuries. No I don't care who you put in charge the only solution is 4-5 solid signings in January. If they are not allowed to do that then you could put Guardiola, Klopp, or Tuchel in charge of this lot and they are still going to struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlion Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, al_bro said: Would another manager get ay more out of the current squad. Especially with so many injuries. The main question is, why do we have so many injuries and so many hamstring injuries. 3 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: No Well I used to believe there was no point in changing the manager given the owners and players that we've got at the moment. But it does seem that Curly is stuck in his ways with "it's worked in the past, it'll work again" attitude. All I can see is a few more nil nil draws at best and that isn't going to be enough. So why not a new manager ? What's to lose ? At least if we got players into the opponents half we might score some goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 The two loanees have to be better than what they've shown so far given the clubs they come from, perhaps they need to play with more technically gifted players to show it or just lack the application and physicality to do so at this level. Unfortunately for us Curle is a dinosaur in a modern world, these days you have to be able to stimulate players on the training ground and put your arm round them far more than bollock them, you look at the league table and there aren't many with managers over the age of 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, deyres42 said: The two loanees have to be better than what they've shown so far given the clubs they come from I recall someone making the same point about Diarra as he'd been at Monaco at some point. The big clubs have so many young players they won't all be decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev1970 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 He probably knows they cannot afford to pay him off so does not care anyway like has been said he his stuck in his ways and nothing will change his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, kev1970 said: He probably knows they cannot afford to pay him off so does not care anyway like has been said he his stuck in his ways and nothing will change his mind. Didnt he say a while back if the players won't change he'd change them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinsDuckEgg Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Didnt he say a while back if the players won't change he'd change them? To quote Round The Horne. Many times. Many many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 48 minutes ago, redlion said: Well I used to believe there was no point in changing the manager given the owners and players that we've got at the moment. But it does seem that Curly is stuck in his ways with "it's worked in the past, it'll work again" attitude. All I can see is a few more nil nil draws at best and that isn't going to be enough. So why not a new manager ? What's to lose ? At least if we got players into the opponents half we might score some goals. What's to lose about a six figure sum interms of a payout first of all and that will have to come from somewhere and it will probably be the playing budget. I'd rather we spent the money on new players who will keep us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 17 hours ago, deyres42 said: Unfortunately for us Curle is a dinosaur in a modern world Yes, i know which one; A sauruscoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 18 hours ago, deyres42 said: The two loanees have to be better than what they've shown so far given the clubs they come from, perhaps they need to play with more technically gifted players to show it or just lack the application and physicality to do so at this level. Unfortunately for us Curle is a dinosaur in a modern world, these days you have to be able to stimulate players on the training ground and put your arm round them far more than bollock them, you look at the league table and there aren't many with managers over the age of 50. A load of tosh about modern football, give me 442 with good players who know what they are doing in those positions and I'd win the league for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, BP1960 said: A load of tosh about modern football, give me 442 with good players who know what they are doing in those positions and I'd win the league for you. Surely a man of your standing knows you play to your strengths....granted we don't have many, but a front 2 who can cause any damage we certainly don't have! Anyone team with "good players" would do well to fail in this crappy division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, Londonboy said: Surely a man of your standing knows you play to your strengths....granted we don't have many, but a front 2 who can cause any damage we certainly don't have! Anyone team with "good players" would do well to fail in this crappy division. What strengths are those we have now? I'm talking about bringing good players in to fit the bill. This lot won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamAthlete Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Neil Cox sacked at Scunthorpe. Maybe a change will alter there results? Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Let’s hope not!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlion Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 21 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: What's to lose about a six figure sum interms of a payout first of all and that will have to come from somewhere and it will probably be the playing budget. I'd rather we spent the money on new players who will keep us up. You're assuming a lot. First the pay off amount and second that even IF we got any new players, that they would make a big enough difference, especially given Curly's performance so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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