philwhite Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: 11 minutes ago, philwhite said: They are incredible - I hope that the performance on the pitch does not kill their enthusiasm - a fantastic sight to see them in full voice Who was the chap on the pitch videoing them all the match ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: For me the circumstances with new ownership etc actually make it easier to make the change now, the Rothwells are, or should, going to have a significant honeymoon period, personally I'd be using that leeway to make what will likely be an unpopular decision but the right one. Mr Rothwell Snr would look a bit silly sacking him 3 weeks after saying in a press conference that he has full confidence in Sheridan. I don't think they'll sack him, but he might step aside if things don't improve rapid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Mr Rothwell Snr would look a bit silly sacking him 3 weeks after saying in a press conference that he has full confidence in Sheridan. I don't think they'll sack him, but he might step aside if things don't improve rapid... You would certainly hope so!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 53 minutes ago, Careca9 said: yeah but if u read the notts county boards and wrexhams they will all say they came down tried to play passing football and it doesn’t work as the quality of player isn’t there. U need to be big and quite direct to be successful Our first two home league opponents have played passing football in abundance, one of which has secured 12 promotions in the last 22 years… …I call bollocks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 57 minutes ago, Careca9 said: yeah but if u read the notts county boards and wrexhams they will all say they came down tried to play passing football and it doesn’t work as the quality of player isn’t there. U need to be big and quite direct to be successful . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Mr Rothwell Snr would look a bit silly sacking him 3 weeks after saying in a press conference that he has full confidence in Sheridan. I don't think they'll sack him, but he might step aside if things don't improve rapid... No, I fully expect us to continue in the classic Latics way making decisions based on sentiment rather than reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 3 games! Jesus Christ. Give the man who has served the club on and off for around 20 years, a bit more time and respect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShireBlue Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Gonna see where we are when the EFL transfer window closes and we have some loan signings come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.O.JONES Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Settle down boys and girls, re-phrase; panic button hit must not. Couple of signings and a bit of time without pressure could make all the difference, if not and things don't improve then hit the f---ing thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, ShireBlue said: Gonna see where we are when the EFL transfer window closes and we have some loan signings come in. What a foundation to build the club on...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas89 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, C.O.JONES said: Settle down boys and girls, re-phrase; panic button hit must not. Couple of signings and a bit of time without pressure could make all the difference, if not and things don't improve then hit the f---ing thing. Hit the nail on the head here ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShireBlue Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 34 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: What a foundation to build the club on...... It’s hardly the foundation of the club bringing in loanees. But 2 or 3 astute signings would make a big difference IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 42 minutes ago, latics22 said: 3 games! Jesus Christ. Give the man who has served the club on and off for around 20 years, a bit more time and respect! It's more than 3 games we could all see what was coming from the poor pre season games where teams like Fylde played us off the park for football skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 30 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: What a foundation to build the club on...... Like it or not loans are a crucial part of lower league football. Four of the key players when we beat Fulham were loanees (Iversen, Land, Surridge, Lyden). It was the same a few years earlier when we beat City and when we beat Liverpool Wabara played a major part. I can't even remember who we had on loan last season but I'm pretty sure they weren't great! No doubt that was as a result of broken relationships with clubs who may have sent players to us as well as a reluctance on their part to damage young players' careers by sending them into such a toxic environment. Reasonable to hope, I think, that we are in a better position now to acquire loanees who will benefit us and who will benefit from being with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 12 hours ago, kowenicki said: Sorry, but that is BS. Ok kow - perhaps what I should have said is that the "bar stewards" were given an awful lot more time/chances to "make a difference". Shez is being jumped all over pretty instantly by some fans. Disgraceful in my book. I'm absolutely over the moon with the takeover etc. and am now prepared to support every aspect of the club again - and quite prepared for a season of consolidation. Of course results will matter - but people calling for the sack after 3 games - I certainly know who is talking out of their arse (as one poster said) - and it ain't me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farkas89 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 In other words, I was impressed with Fondop and maybe he should start in place of Porter against Southend on Saturday, who didn't do much on his own upfront last night. i think Fondop won every aerial duel since he came on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Like it or not loans are a crucial part of lower league football. Four of the key players when we beat Fulham were loanees (Iversen, Land, Surridge, Lyden). It was the same a few years earlier when we beat City and when we beat Liverpool Wabara played a major part. I can't even remember who we had on loan last season but I'm pretty sure they weren't great! No doubt that was as a result of broken relationships with clubs who may have sent players to us as well as a reluctance on their part to damage young players' careers by sending them into such a toxic environment. Reasonable to hope, I think, that we are in a better position now to acquire loanees who will benefit us and who will benefit from being with us. Agree Dave and hopefully 2 or 3 decent loan additions will arrive sooner rather than later. You'd like to think Darren and Joe are reasonably well connected and can bring in some young hungry players from leagues above. My worry is, without it seems any sort of identity in the way we are at least trying to play, then what is Sheridan actually looking for?? He seems to have the stock answer of we just need more bodies in which doesn't inspire me with confidence. I'd like to hear at least that he's looking for players to do jobs in certain positions, and who will bring certain qualities we are lacking to the squad. Players to improve on the quality we have now can't be that difficult to find..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLYOWD Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I would love to know Joe Royle’s thoughts on this matter, because I bet he knows the importance of keeping the momentum created by Frank’s takeover rolling. His opinion would be listened to, I think he would be having a word in Frank’s ear if there was too many performances like the last. I hope Shez is able to turn it around but if he’s not, is it really impossible to give Pete Wild "his dream job" back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Just now, WLYOWD said: I hope Shez is able to turn it around but if he’s not, is it really impossible to give Pete Wild "his dream job" back? More chance of Oscar Wild(e)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLYOWD Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: More chance of Oscar Wild(e)... Ok Yours was the opinion I was hoping for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShireBlue Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Pete Wild is going great-guns with Barrow in L2 and his stock will be rising. No way would he drop back to National League level unless he really had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 40 minutes ago, Londonboy said: Agree Dave and hopefully 2 or 3 decent loan additions will arrive sooner rather than later. You'd like to think Darren and Joe are reasonably well connected and can bring in some young hungry players from leagues above. My worry is, without it seems any sort of identity in the way we are at least trying to play, then what is Sheridan actually looking for?? He seems to have the stock answer of we just need more bodies in which doesn't inspire me with confidence. I'd like to hear at least that he's looking for players to do jobs in certain positions, and who will bring certain qualities we are lacking to the squad. Players to improve on the quality we have now can't be that difficult to find..... How many players signed by Shez have yet to even appear on the subs bench? I hear the injured veteran Legge might be signed, surely that's no way to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 55 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Ok kow - perhaps what I should have said is that the "bar stewards" were given an awful lot more time/chances to "make a difference". Shez is being jumped all over pretty instantly by some fans. Disgraceful in my book. I'm absolutely over the moon with the takeover etc. and am now prepared to support every aspect of the club again - and quite prepared for a season of consolidation. Of course results will matter - but people calling for the sack after 3 games - I certainly know who is talking out of their arse (as one poster said) - and it ain't me. You don't consolidate in a lower division you need to get out of it straight away. Chesterfield and Notts County consolidated and are still stuck in the mire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 46 minutes ago, BP1960 said: You don't consolidate in a lower division you need to get out of it straight away. Chesterfield and Notts County consolidated and are still stuck in the mire. Consolidating for a season doesn't mean staying there forever, it took Luton 4 years to get out of the national league. Last year they were just 2 wins from the Premier league after bypassing us on the way up. They should be our model to aim at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 To be fair to Shez I think we’ve got to take into account the circumstances the current squad was put together. The season is only a few weeks away , we now know we were on the verge of bankruptcy and Shez has somehow got to get a squad together to start the season. He brings in any available free transfers that will enable him to start the season. Then the takeover happens , hallelujah, but Shez now has a squad of hasbeens & pub players , can’t unload now so let’s see who’s any good over the first 8-10 games then bring in some loans. I would hope that by Xmas we are hovering somewhere around mid table. Hopefully early next year Frank can bring some new investors on board to plough some money into some decent players. Making the playoffs would be a bonus but defo next season a big promotion push. If not then probably Shez would need replacing as he may have stood down by then anyway. Lets give him the benefit of the doubt as the main goal this season has already been achieved by clearing the scum out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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