League one forever Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: A 3 year deal doesn't count for too much to be honest. It's the severance clause that is important. I doubt he'll have the full 3 years in his severance pay if it doesn't work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 hours ago, PeteG said: No it's just the hypocrisy dished out over the weekend when everyone knew they were discussing his position from day 1. You telling me those rumours didn't make their way to the dressing room and affect morale and results? If they wanted their own man from Day 1 they should have done it straight away. Fucking hell, I agree with Mike. I may need to reconsider my position.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, deyres42 said: Time has to be earned surely. If Uno loses 8/9/10 games on the spin then he'll be under pressure and rightly so. Only if they've let him sign some better players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 4 hours ago, PeteG said: And you said I know nothing and talk complete bollox. Nice to see they were discussing Shez's job openly while the man was still it situ! 2 hours ago, dannyboy55555 said: Close some tabs! Has he got anything Birketty open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, deyres42 said: Just the modern way. With many players on short contracts in the lower levels and a plethora of available coaches and managers you don't need to give them time. A three year contract gives the impression of stability though I guess. As did "John will be under no pressure, please give him your full backing even if we're doing badly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspectormorose. Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, BP1960 said: I worked for many famous managers and chief scouts who contacted me on regular basis. If I spot any good prospect I will pass them on to who I wish. One is now being followed up by a Premiership club I used to work for. As for amateurs many start at that level so they cannot be dismissed on the basis of the standard they play. Talent can be found anywhere, even in Sunday league where I recommended Lee Trundle, Tony Ellis and Tony Naylor who went on to play in the Championship. I played 1 game in Sunday league as Tony Naylors strike partner for The Nelson (now the Buck and Union) probably late 1980's. We lost 21-3, he got 2 and I got 1 so we did our bit... Our keeper had had a better offer that day so our manager went in goal... Sunday league eh, proper football... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 36 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Thanks everyone, my request to David Unsworth will be passed on to him by someone established with the current regime at the club. This boy really impressed me with dribbling skills I've not seen the likes of for many years. Scores goals from wide too. Reminded me of David Eyres who was playing at a similar level before he was spotted. If he’s as good as described, can I have first dibs on being his agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Some cracking infrastructure content today for those that way inclined (me included). All very positive, be good to see a style develop over the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Given how long we're told it's gonna take to get things right off the pitch I'm surprised we've not gone for an experienced man, an old school type used to running a club from top to bottom who could have sped all of that up. But....... Great interviews. I love his winning mentality and, even moreso, the urgency of it. (I assume that will go down like a sack of shit with those who were shouting others down for wanting Shez to win more games though, no?) But we've been here before many times haven't we. He pretty much said this himself which I liked - "but these are just words..." (or something to that effect). Good luck to him. May his first signing be a goalscoring signing.... And his second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyyou Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 With so many players out injured, or not up to speed after injury, I think it may be a while before Unsworth can implement a new system/style to his satisfaction. Shez steadied the ship but it may take a bit for the new boss to turn it around. I am optimistic this is a good appointment, especially with a decent coaching team reportedly coming in. However patience is not something football fans are generally known for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Good luck to him. May his first signing be a goalscoring signing.... And his second. Just chuck 40k at Eastleigh for Whitehall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Great first interview and certainly someone you warm to….hopefully the players will feel the same and respond better than they appeared to be doing for Shez I’m looking forward to Bromley now…just have to find out where it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careca9 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, League one forever said: Everyone talking about sacking managers is missing the point. If any manager doesn’t get results, or at least show signs of progress- they deserve the sack. It’s that simple. But. What you don’t do, is sack/let go of managers whose results are good, and/or shows of progress. Moore/Bunn/Wild. It’s this the club needs to get right, and I’m confident they will. totally agree. I defo back a longer term appointment but unsworth has no track record. If he performs worse than Sheridan and he has no record of ever producing with another club then I’m not sure u can keep him on long term. He needs time to build his side but will have to show some sort of promise or team development in the short term also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, League one forever said: Everyone talking about sacking managers is missing the point. If any manager doesn’t get results, or at least show signs of progress- they deserve the sack. It’s that simple. But. What you don’t do, is sack/let go of managers whose results are good, and/or shows of progress. Moore/Bunn/Wild. It’s this the club needs to get right, and I’m confident they will. Not many wanted Moore to be given any longer, and plenty wanted Bunn gone early doors. If we'd sacked him in October when were a lot nearer the bottom of the league than the top, or after the Hampton cup game, it'd have probably been backed by the majority of fans. When we did a few weeks later, many were up in arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Said all the right things. Seems a likeable bloke. Good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Give. Him. A. Chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: Yes - so how long does he get? We all want to see improvement, even if we are going well. All depends on results so if we do down or look bad fans will clamour for him to go. Alternatively if we go up other clubs will be in for him. This season if a disaster, which I think is unlikely. 2 seasons if very successful with 2 promotions..then cash in. 3 seasons if good progress and offered 2 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 49 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Given how long we're told it's gonna take to get things right off the pitch I'm surprised we've not gone for an experienced man, an old school type used to running a club from top to bottom who could have sped all of that up. I wonder if his work at Everton beyond the immediacy of coaching the U23s makes the club think that's what they are getting? He's been Academy Director there, not just a coach, which at least implies a sense of strategic thinking above and beyond just picking an 11 and telling them to run about a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy55555 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: Has he got anything Birketty open? Def not called Pete given the letter in the top right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, BP1960 said: N/t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPAS Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 37 minutes ago, dannyboy55555 said: Def not called Pete given the letter in the top right @PeteG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only Blue Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 What I liked about his interview is that he didn't ask for time himself. He immediately stated he needed to come up with how to start winning matches now, and then would start to tweak the team into how he wanted them to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, HarryBosch said: As did "John will be under no pressure, please give him your full backing even if we're doing badly" Was this said by Frank in his unveiling? Seems a bit harsh to keep going on about it when it was meant with the best of intentions and Frank was obviously new to the whole speaking in front of the media thing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogdenwoodwhittle Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Decent coverage and announcemnt. From offishul site he's going to need a bigger desk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, JoeP said: Was this said by Frank in his unveiling? Seems a bit harsh to keep going on about it when it was meant with the best of intentions and Frank was obviously new to the whole speaking in front of the media thing.. Hardly. He's not been out of the media for the last five years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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