Guy Branston Pickle Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Just done a quick tally, including interim managers he'll be the 37th manager since I started going to games in 1996. 12th in 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 I wonder what Harry Vaughan's role is going to be now then. When he has come on in games this season, I think he has looked very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 On the appointment, for a non-league club to have someone who as a player spent the vast majority of it in the Premier League and who has a decade of good solid coaching experience behind him ontop of that. Then I think this is about as good as an appointment as we should realistically expect. Now the Royles's have got someone who is clearly Their Man in place then I hope we are going to build something abit more long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, wiseowl said: If managers spent all their time following up recommendations from fans who've spotted " a gem" they'd do nothing else except waste time watching everyone's "little darlings" in some amateur game somewhere. Leave the managers to manage - that's what they are paid for. I think that's what the emoji was probably about BP - just be a supporter and let the club get on with things for a while without any interference on the playing front - no matter how well intended. I worked for many famous managers and chief scouts who contacted me on regular basis. If I spot any good prospect I will pass them on to who I wish. One is now being followed up by a Premiership club I used to work for. As for amateurs many start at that level so they cannot be dismissed on the basis of the standard they play. Talent can be found anywhere, even in Sunday league where I recommended Lee Trundle, Tony Ellis and Tony Naylor who went on to play in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, BP1960 said: I need to contact David Unsworth about a very exciting young player I've seen in non league, who I understand was once a youth at Everton. If anyone has details of how to contact him please send me a direct message. david.unsworth@oldhamathletic.co.uk Will probably do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 33 minutes ago, Bobledgersheart said: No objections to discerning ex-scouts/supporters contacting the club regarding potential talent, just do it but don't tell everyone on here. Surely an "old fashioned" letter or note addressed to the manager would get to him eventually, especially if your credentials are good. Like a previous manager who hadn't the courtesy to reply to me despite me sending my credentials. There are some on this message board who have have personal contacts with the current regime and its those I'm reaching out to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKing521 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: It's almost as if you want to be in a position to say you were right no matter what happens: Pardon? I'm quoting his interview and then saying it should be a welcome change to Sheridan's ideology of 'just go out and enjoy it' etc... I also hope that comment comes back to bite me on the arse. Promotion soon would be lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsworth blue Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 I welcome this appointment but would like to point out that this Unsworth was here before the Right Honourable David Unsworth. Not withstanding that, this club is crying out for stability and some foundations that have been ripped out of it over the last 30 years. I want a club that will in future have a platform from which to develop players and bring them through again and not one that is solely reliant on certain football agents like we have become. I want a club that serves its employees and its community well and one that tries to do the right thing in a really competitive environment and not one that constantly cuts corners to try and gain fast results but without any likelihood of a sustainable future or these fast results being repeated on a regular basis. Clubs like Luton Town have shown that fortunes can be turned round over a period of time, I am sure The Royles, Rothwells and Mr Unsworth have a strategy in place to emulate clubs who have been on a recovery journey (like Luton) and are now much better placed than they were a few years ago. I am sick of the short termism that has engulfed this club for far too long, I want success like anyone else but recognise that in order to achieve constant and consistent progress and success, then a secure foundation needs to laid first. Welcome David, I truly hope you are the right man to put this club back on an even keel on a footballing front and can lead OAFC back to where it once was, a proud and effective member of the English Football League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Don't worry Phil, you will always be the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wroteforluck87 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 When I first heard the rumour I was convinced we needed a manager who had done the business at this level whoever I've warmed up to the idea I'm seeing this appointment as the first of the Rothwell/Royle era and hopefully this will kick start the rebuild "football" side of the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics59 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Interview now unavailable on official website?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, latics59 said: Interview now unavailable on official website?? Playing for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 hours ago, PeteG said: And you said I know nothing and talk complete bollox. Nice to see they were discussing Shez's job openly while the man was still it situ! Mike, that Chrome browser discipline is fucking with my OCD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Talks well, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Everyone talking about sacking managers is missing the point. If any manager doesn’t get results, or at least show signs of progress- they deserve the sack. It’s that simple. But. What you don’t do, is sack/let go of managers whose results are good, and/or shows of progress. Moore/Bunn/Wild. It’s this the club needs to get right, and I’m confident they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, League one forever said: Everyone talking about sacking managers is missing the point. If any manager doesn’t get results, or at least show signs of progress- they deserve the sack. It’s that simple. But. What you don’t do, is sack/let go of managers whose results are good, and/or shows of progress. Moore/Bunn/Wild. It’s this the club needs to get right, and I’m confident they will. But the big debate, and what has changed so much in recent years (especially with us but with the game in general) is how long they get to win games/show progress. A season?, a couple of transfer windows (yes, different down here but still relevant)? The time needed to say it is their team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Thanks everyone, my request to David Unsworth will be passed on to him by someone established with the current regime at the club. This boy really impressed me with dribbling skills I've not seen the likes of for many years. Scores goals from wide too. Reminded me of David Eyres who was playing at a similar level before he was spotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukers1 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Thanks everyone, my request to David Unsworth will be passed on to him by someone established with the current regime at the club. This boy really impressed me with dribbling skills I've not seen the likes of for many years. Scores goals from wide too. Reminded me of David Eyres who was playing at a similar level before he was spotted. I hope you get the chance to post on here if the lad becomes a star BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyyou Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 54 minutes ago, latics59 said: Interview now unavailable on official website?? Ignore what it says. Click on 'Latest videos' and it loads ok. Well it did for me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: But the big debate, and what has changed so much in recent years (especially with us but with the game in general) is how long they get to win games/show progress. A season?, a couple of transfer windows (yes, different down here but still relevant)? The time needed to say it is their team? As an observer of the game Dave it's performances I want to see improved. Under the previous manager the team was dysfunctional and played well only in short bursts. Once Unsworth has established a team shape and pattern of play with improved distribution and support play we could see even this season a challenge for the play offs. (Hopefully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: But the big debate, and what has changed so much in recent years (especially with us but with the game in general) is how long they get to win games/show progress. A season?, a couple of transfer windows (yes, different down here but still relevant)? The time needed to say it is their team? See I don’t think it’s about amount of time at all, and it’s largely red herring from a managers perspective. You can have all the 3/4/5 contracts you want but if he doesn’t win enough football matches- he’s gone. The club should be coming up with a philosophy and the manger needs to get results within those parameters- like Swansea or Brighton. Their manger is recruited on what the club wants, not the what the managers offers as a style of play. This to me feels like it’s we are going, and I’m all for it. Therefore I will Judge Unsworth on- Results- for obvious reasons. Performance - both in work rate and style of play. Youth development- does he bring the young ones on, does he improve them If he is meeting those more often than not, he stays. If he doesn’t, he goes. We desperately need to get back to mangers taking responsibility, as I’m sure under these owners they’ll be every chance to do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, BP1960 said: As an observer of the game Dave it's performances I want to see improved. Under the previous manager the team was dysfunctional and played well only in short bursts. Once Unsworth has established a team shape and pattern of play with improved distribution and support play we could see even this season a challenge for the play offs. (Hopefully). Yes - so how long does he get? We all want to see improvement, even if we are going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 minute ago, League one forever said: See I don’t think it’s about amount of time at all, and it’s largely red herring from a managers perspective. You can have all the 3/4/5 contracts you want but if he doesn’t win enough football matches- he’s gone. The club should be coming up with a philosophy and the manger needs to get results within those parameters- like Swansea or Brighton. Their manger is recruited on what the club wants, not the what the managers offers as a style of play. This to me feels like it’s we are going, and I’m all for it. Therefore I will Judge Unsworth on- Results- for obvious reasons. Performance - both in work rate and style of play. Youth development- does he bring the young ones on, does he improve them If he is meeting those more often than not, he stays. If he doesn’t, he goes. We desperately need to get back to mangers taking responsibility, as I’m sure under these owners they’ll be every chance to do well. But over what timescale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 A 3 year deal doesn't count for too much to be honest. It's the severance clause that is important. I doubt he'll have the full 3 years in his severance pay if it doesn't work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: But over what timescale? From my point of view- the bar is ridiculously low this season, just show us the green shoots of recovery. If we haven’t done anything by the end of season and are hovering above the relegation zone- questions will be rightly asked. However if as I expect, he does ok, and we are top half at the end of the season. Then he gets the following season to really push us on. . If not. . He goes. Any manager has expectation for the size of the club they’re at. Unsworth isn’t here to finish 12th for 3 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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