Frankies6 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Just now, Dave_Og said: Read the terms and the embargo Which ever way we look at it.. KC has been given carte blanche this summer with a whole new backroom team and 14 new signings.. judgement must stop at his door for what we are witnessing under his tenure at the club... 12 defeats in 20 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankies6 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Read the terms of the embargo which I very much doubt was known when Curle took the job in the summer. He must have had an idea about what he was walking into ..He doesn't come across to me as some idiot who was desperate for any managers job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Frankies6 said: Which ever way we look at it.. KC has been given carte blanche this summer with a whole new backroom team and 14 new signings.. judgement must stop at his door for what we are witnessing under his tenure at the club... 12 defeats in 20 ? For pity's sake. How does operating under the terms of the embargo equate to being given carte blanche? I'm sure there were players he wanted that were immediately impossibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankies6 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: For pity's sake. How does operating under the terms of the embargo equate to being given carte blanche? I'm sure there were players he wanted that were immediately impossibilities. Hallam Hope, Mcganey , Clarke, Jayson Luitweiller are KC.. then the loans . Do we just leave KC and focus on Mo, who you will have a job removing I'm afraid.. Arabs are very much loyal to family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Frankies6 said: Hallam Hope, Mcganey , Clarke, Jayson Luitweiller are KC.. then the loans . Do we just leave KC and focus on Mo, who you will have a job removing I'm afraid.. Arabs are very much loyal to family Yes. Every one of them from the equivalent of the two hours from being past their sell by date on the shelf at Aldi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Be surprised if he isn't sacked in the next few days, I'm no Bovis Boy but this could the lowest point in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Frankies6 said: Hallam Hope, Mcganey , Clarke, Jayson Luitweiller are KC.. then the loans . Do we just leave KC and focus on Mo, who you will have a job removing I'm afraid.. Arabs are very much loyal to family Do you seriously think a new manager will turn it round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Just now, deyres42 said: Be surprised if he isn't sacked in the next few days, I'm no Bovis Boy but this could the lowest point in a long time. COULD be???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 30 minutes ago, Careca9 said: Denial of what? That curle has absolutely no control of team, selection, formation. That is 100% not happening. Like I said, stop giving him a free ride Whether you want to accept it or not, we are going down. No manager or coach will change that. And it’s not even the worst of our problems. And please for the love of god, will you stop posting absolute nonsense about squads- Last season we had Rowe and Mac. One got 12 the other got 20plus. They have been replaced with ONE player -Hallam don’t laugh Hope. Who still hasn’t scored yet, and leaves a centre half as top scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankies6 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Do you seriously think a new manager will turn it round? I really couldn't answer this .. I don't know is my answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Frankies6 said: I really couldn't answer this .. I don't know is my answer. Well the fact that none of the last ten have is a strong clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 He has recruited his own players. In his defence 6 who would be starting 11 weren't available today. We have some decent players. It's the tactics. All this tippy tippy sideways, backwards passing gets us nowhere. If you're playing little short passes then it needs to be done quickly. Vaughan came on and was one of the only ones, apart from Fage, who looked to turn and drive forwards with the ball. If you are playing short passes with no movement in front of you, it isn't rocket science, at that pace you aren't going to be creating any chances or opening any gaps. It's too slow. Adams has a very high assist rate through his career. Need to be moving the ball out wide quickly and getting bodies in the box. I'm not talking long ball just moving it quicker. Feel a bit sorry for Hope. He's had one clear cut chance I can remember this season. The ball gets walloped up after a few minutes of pointless passing and then he is trying to hold it up with 2 or 3 defenders pressing him. He has little support. We had 3 technically good midfielders starting today, nobody to do the dirty stuff and put a foot in. Ollie Banks folds like wet cardboard under pressure but we gave him space constantly. Pidge was impressive again, Jameson also did alright. Fage MOTM for me. It's the tactics from KC, not the players in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 They'll sack him this week or next, and hope it acts as a distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: They'll sack him this week or next, and hope it acts as a distraction. Can they afford to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 He's just pretty rubbish isn't he really, no tactical edge, basically chats shit, we might as well just roll the dice with someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc21 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Curle should speak out against this shit show of ownership and back the fans, he’s on a hiding to nothing, as it stands lately he’s sticking up for the frauds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott2 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Get him gone. I know people will come at me with embargo talk and budget talk, but he knew full well what he was getting himself in to when he came here. Many of his signings have been injured and, for me, it's happened too many times to be just back luck. He has spaffed what budget he did have on crocks. The story seems to go that he has made us more solid at the back but we have conceded 10 goals in 6 games and in certain games, could and should have conceded a lot more (Bristol and Bradford immediately come to mind) and he has managed to nullify any attacking threat we have. I've never been too keen on him anyway and I know @Chaddyexile84thinks I have a vigilante campaign against him, but he has managed to perform worse than any his predecessor and that takes some doing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: Get him gone. I know people will come at me with embargo talk and budget talk, but he knew full well what he was getting himself in to when he came here. Many of his signings have been injured and, for me, it's happened too many times to be just back luck. He has spaffed what budget he did have on crocks. The story seems to go that he has made us more solid at the back but we have conceded 10 goals in 6 games and in certain games, could and should have conceded a lot more (Bristol and Bradford immediately come to mind) and he has managed to nullify any attacking threat we have. I've never been too keen on him anyway and I know @Chaddyexile84thinks I have a vigilante campaign against him, but he has managed to perform worse than any his predecessor and that takes some doing... I can’t disagree his performance thus far would be just cause for dismissal I still maintain we won’t get anyone any better and if we did Flat Cap would still be all over it I’d rather they just gave the job to Mo and have done with it, though he’d struggle to scurry away with security on 65 minutes from the dugout. Im past caring really - nothing will improve until the twats leave anyway Also never mind the defence but replacing Conor McAleney with Hallam “will never score as long as I have a hole in my arse no” Hope is as shit a decision as I ever witnessed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott2 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Chaddyexile84 said: I’d rather they just gave the job to Mo and have done with it, though he’d struggle to scurry away with security on 65 minutes from the dugout. Been saying this for a while; just put us out of our misery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Chaddyexile84 said: I can’t disagree his performance thus far would be just cause for dismissal I still maintain we won’t get anyone any better and if we did Flat Cap would still be all over it I’d rather they just gave the job to Mo and have done with it, though he’d struggle to scurry away with security on 65 minutes from the dugout. Im past caring really - nothing will improve until the twats leave anyway Also never mind the defence but replacing Conor McAleney with Hallam “will never score as long as I have a hole in my arse no” Hope is as shit a decision as I ever witnessed 100% You took the words right out my mouth. The football/manager/tactics are the least of our problems. I find it staggering that people STILL try to assess as if normal rules apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 37 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: Get him gone. I know people will come at me with embargo talk and budget talk, but he knew full well what he was getting himself in to when he came here. He didn’t though did he? The embargo wasnt confirmed until after he joined. I hold no brief for him and I haven't seen a single minute of Latics games since he took charge. Nobody has a hope under these conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott2 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Just now, Dave_Og said: He didn’t though did he? The embargo wasnt confirmed until after he joined. I hold no brief for him and I haven't seen a single minute of Latics games since he took charge. Nobody has a hope under these conditions. Well Barry Owen was broadcasting it before Curle had signed his two year deal so I suspect he will have known about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: Well Barry Owen was broadcasting it before Curle had signed his two year deal so I suspect he will have known about it... Owen left in March. He knew for sure that loan would still be outstanding now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boys in Blue Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Surely Curle’s actions in bringing in 5 of his own choices before the embargo came in shows that he was aware that it was coming. Signing at least one player for a key position (keeper) on more money than an embargo would allow tells you that he knew it was coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Boys in Blue said: Signing at least one player for a key position (keeper) on more money than an embargo would allow tells you that he knew it was coming What??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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