Clifford Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The whispers within the club is that today was win or out for Dunn with Carsley coming in as replacement. That wasn't 100% from the board but is what the staff members have been informed is the likely outcome. I think personally think the effort and attitude of the 2nd half will have bought him more time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Holden on BBC Radio Manc. https://audioboom.com/boos/4042088-there-s-a-lot-of-rumours-we-can-t-control-any-of-that-oafc-s-dean-holden His interviews don't endear me to him. From the same playbook as Dunn. It's like hearing the same person speak, and both emit hostility. Sounds like Us vs. Them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisA Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The mention of promotion from Holden was sarcastic I take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The whispers within the club is that today was win or out for Dunn with Carsley coming in as replacement. That wasn't 100% from the board but is what the staff members have been informed is the likely outcome. I think personally think the effort and attitude of the 2nd half will have bought him more time. He won't sack Dunn until he has no other choice. At first it seemed too ambitious to go after a manager, but when you think about it Corney would relish avoiding a proper search process, given his stomach has gone. Carsley doesn't want to manage, though, which could prove a significant stumbling block... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'm bored of hearing them saying they need to work harder to put things right...nothing comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 biggest problem is that if Corney thinks we are beyond saving and relegation is most likely, as I do, then the best option is to sell as many players as they can and watch us sink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinevillawill Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 If I had to sum up that interview in a word it would be - desperation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrnes boots Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Holden has to go as well I agree. Get Murray back as no.2 and an experienced no.1 Club gone down hill rapidly since holden came back. Wonder how many games we have won since he came back. I'm guessing less than Murray works for Johnson 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The uncertainty is the thing that pisses me off most, it's really tiresome. I'm not even that fussed as to whether Dunn is in charge or not, I don't think it'll make a big difference to the outcome of our season any more. The board need to back Dunn or sack him, but at the moment the board doesn't seem to be doing either option and are caught in between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Don't know if to laugh or cry when folk suggest Shez comes back. Is that so he can relegate another club from this division? Maybe it's so he can promote another team from the division below? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The uncertainty is the thing that pisses me off most, it's really tiresome. I'm not even that fussed as to whether Dunn is in charge or not, I don't think it'll make a big difference to the outcome of our season any more. The board need to back Dunn or sack him, but at the moment the board doesn't seem to be doing either option and are caught in between. I just hope they're looking for a replacement, which would explain the silence. Dunn has shown nothing. Holden has been abysmal. We need a change. We pained for months over replacing Johnson. Look what happened. We didn't pain over replacing Kelly. Just as bad. We need decisive action. We don't need another Baz mini-me. He really needs to :censored: off. Amateur. Whatever, as has been pointed out, we really need to remember, this is our club. We need to rally behind the team. Forget each result. Support is what we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) I just hope they're looking for a replacement, which would explain the silence. Dunn has shown nothing. Holden has been abysmal. We need a change. We pained for months over replacing Johnson. Look what happened. We didn't pain over replacing Kelly. Just as bad. We need decisive action. We don't need another Baz mini-me. He really needs to :censored: off. Amateur. Whatever, as has been pointed out, we really need to remember, this is our club. We need to rally behind the team. Forget each result. Support is what we need. If they were getting a replacement, I reckon they would have done it by now. The longer it goes on, the harder it's going to be to find one. It's also going to cost to get a decent manager and decent players to keep us up and this board won't pay for it. We're knackered, basically. Edited January 10, 2016 by JoeP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cav Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Carsley taking a youth coaching role with the FA according to today's Sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Carsley taking a youth coaching role with the FA according to today's Sun. I very much doubt Carsley would openly deny he was interested in a position if he really was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Carsley taking a youth coaching role with the FA according to today's Sun. The guy on twitter who first said Carsley was a potential replacement indicated that was his other option. Can't blame him for taking that one instead really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I'd have Shez back worse case scenario is he knows league 2 inside out and knows what it takes to get back up yes he took Chesterfield down but still won the jpt that year after winning league 2 the year before would anyone take two trophies and a relegation in two years? I know I would!!! You also have to realise he had Davies and smalley taken away one sold and the other recalled then sold by us to Oxford that affected their season in 2011/12. But yeah I'd have Shez back no danger. He'd build a team around Winchester imo...and he has a knack of finding goal scorers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_blue Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I'd have Shez back worse case scenario is he knows league 2 inside out and knows what it takes to get back up yes he took Chesterfield down but still won the jpt that year after winning league 2 the year before would anyone take two trophies and a relegation in two years? I know I would!!! You also have to realise he had Davies and smalley taken away one sold and the other recalled then sold by us to Oxford that affected their season in 2011/12. But yeah I'd have Shez back no danger. He'd build a team around Winchester imo...and he has a knack of finding goal scorers We're not in league 2 so why prepare for it? Let's fight to stay in league 1 first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) I'd have Shez back worse case scenario is he knows league 2 inside out and knows what it takes to get back up yes he took Chesterfield down but still won the jpt that year after winning league 2 the year before would anyone take two trophies and a relegation in two years? I know I would!!! You also have to realise he had Davies and smalley taken away one sold and the other recalled then sold by us to Oxford that affected their season in 2011/12. But yeah I'd have Shez back no danger. He'd build a team around Winchester imo...and he has a knack of finding goal scorers I'd always have Shez back regardless, although that's due to him being my Latics' hero growing up! If he was a different person with the same managerial record then he probably wouldn't be my first choice, but he's an infinitely better choice than any of the managers we've had since Johnson. Edited January 10, 2016 by the_mighty_bosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardOafc Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I to would have shez back. The ex players with no management experience we have had since have all fallen on there backside,s. Shez has the experience now and knows the set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 If this England job is on the cards, I doubt he would be come a million miles of us. Let's hope it is a negotiating position... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 If this club is run as badly as many on here would have you believe. Why would John Sheridan previously sacked by the club and party to the inner workings of the club for many years come back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) By having all his backroom team binned off from under him, presumably in an attempt to make him walk. Then being told immediately after the Liverpool win that he was going to be sacked anyway. Then being kept around for a few weeks to save face, then being sacked before the Everton game. Get ride of Shez and Dickov are probably the two dumbest moves Corney ever made IMO... I know Dickov resigned but it sure felt like the club wanted rid at the time... EDITED to correct mistake Edited January 10, 2016 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Sacking Shez and Dickov are probably the two dumbest moves Corney ever made IMO... Steady on. Dickov?!! I can think of a lot more mistakes he's made in 2015 alone. Edited January 10, 2016 by welshgaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Steady on. Dickov?!! I can think of a lot more mistakes he's made in 2015 alone. He was a new young manager... So what if he made some mistakes ? We cant keep appointing managers with little or no experience and not giving them time. How long did it take Joe to get it right ? I have to be fair and say Dickov officially "resigned"... but it sure felt like he was pushed... Edited January 10, 2016 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Sacking Dickov was one of the few understandable decisions he's made. 2.5 seasons and we were going backwards (and down). It brought us Johnson, who is a better manager than Dickov. 2015 has had innumerable errors, perhaps the most unforgivable was allowing the season to peter out without appointing a new manager. Others would argue hiring Kelly was more objectively worse. There are so many you could debate it for hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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