beag_teeets Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 We should defend from the front, team game and each man has a defensive job to do unless there are a free spirit like Harkins, Baxter, Boshell... Many of our clean sheets last season came from the defence in front of Ripley and the cover midfield supplied at times. I'd love it if Ripley came back as he does look a good keeper prospect, he's still learning the game but has good shot stopping, commands the area, appears to have a big personality, is a fully paid up member of the Goalkeepers Union and I know my opinion of him was elevated to hero after the double penalty save but is it possible that a good enough keeper would do if the 10 players in front of him pull their weight? Goals win games, goals change games and we don't score enough. The defence and midfield almost link up well but there is a disconnect between the midfield and the forwards that we need to solve, hopefully Gardner can do that? If we score more it takes a bit of pressure off the other end, towards the end of last season if we scored first we won. I think? There may be some alternative facts that prove otherwise but that's how I remember it so that's what counts. Ripley was a very good base of the defence last season which gave the players in front of him something to build on and the confidence to go on and win those clean sheets and it would be great to have him back here but if it doesn't happen then as long as we sort out putting the ball in at the other end we may still do OK without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 A week to go to the first game and the squad is still two short. Ripley's successor and a central midfielder. Sheridan has recently stated that he would like a defensive midfield player whereas I believe we need a creative player in that area of the pitch; or is Gardner the man? In Shez we trust? Yes I do but it would be nice if ....well you know the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I'm hoping that Fane kicks on and becomes the defensive midfielder that he could be and agree with you that it is the creative side that we need to work on. Fane, Edmondson or Stott could play or give cover as defensive midfield leaving room in the squad for cover in the creative midfield position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Window closes end of August, 2/3 loans in and a few out before then I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhamoafc Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 36 minutes ago, beag_teeets said: I'm hoping that Fane kicks on and becomes the defensive midfielder that he could be and agree with you that it is the creative side that we need to work on. Fane, Edmondson or Stott could play or give cover as defensive midfield leaving room in the squad for cover in the creative midfield position. I think Sheridan wants to play 3 in midfield so I think it will be fane, green, plus one more from a new signing/banks/gardner/Flynn. What he means by a defensive midfielder is someone who will pick the ball off the defence and control the game (like himself or a wellens type). Not a ball winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 1 hour ago, beag_teeets said: We should defend from the front, team game and each man has a defensive job to do unless there are a free spirit like Harkins, Baxter, Boshell... Many of our clean sheets last season came from the defence in front of Ripley and the cover midfield supplied at times. I'd love it if Ripley came back as he does look a good keeper prospect, he's still learning the game but has good shot stopping, commands the area, appears to have a big personality, is a fully paid up member of the Goalkeepers Union and I know my opinion of him was elevated to hero after the double penalty save but is it possible that a good enough keeper would do if the 10 players in front of him pull their weight? Goals win games, goals change games and we don't score enough. The defence and midfield almost link up well but there is a disconnect between the midfield and the forwards that we need to solve, hopefully Gardner can do that? If we score more it takes a bit of pressure off the other end, towards the end of last season if we scored first we won. I think? There may be some alternative facts that prove otherwise but that's how I remember it so that's what counts. Ripley was a very good base of the defence last season which gave the players in front of him something to build on and the confidence to go on and win those clean sheets and it would be great to have him back here but if it doesn't happen then as long as we sort out putting the ball in at the other end we may still do OK without him. I was with you until you brought the nightmare back that was Boshell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedtobeWozzer Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Alan Nixon says we have a new keeper in our sights and I quote "good but young" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 26 minutes ago, UsedtobeWozzer said: Alan Nixon says we have a new keeper in our sights and I quote "good but young" "new midfield names being mentioned too" plural... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: "new midfield names being mentioned too" plural... Freddie Woodman is good and young, would we be happy with him? Come in number 17, we need you. Edited July 29, 2017 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 27 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Freddie Woodman is good and young, would we be happy with him? Come in number 17, we need you. Is that someone you've recommended BP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 35 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Freddie Woodman is good and young, would we be happy with him? Come in number 17, we need you. He says it's not Woodman and hasn't yet replied to someone asking if its Cameron Dawson.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, ghostofcecere said: Is that someone you've recommended BP? No, but number 17 is someone I'd definitely want to see again. I liked his attitude as well as his obvious ability. Only seen Freddie for England where he looked the part. His dad Andy was also a goalkeeper and he thwarted Latics on many occasions in the old days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: He says it's not Woodman and hasn't yet replied to someone asking if its Cameron Dawson.... Dont think Dawson is over 6ft, but reportedly assured and a good shot stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) He's just a smidge over 6' according to wiki. Edited July 29, 2017 by oafc1955 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 There's barely a professional footballer below 6 feet if you believe the stats they put out. It's weird when you meet them and realise most of them are circus acts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 On 29/07/2017 at 11:04 AM, beag_teeets said: I'm hoping that Fane kicks on and becomes the defensive midfielder he could be I hope he kickson and becomes a box to box midfield general. He's already decent at the boring defensive bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1000 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 On 7/29/2017 at 9:04 AM, beag_teeets said: I'm hoping that Fane kicks on and becomes the defensive midfielder that he could be and agree with you that it is the creative side that we need to work on. Fane, Edmondson or Stott could play or give cover as defensive midfield leaving room in the squad for cover in the creative midfield position. Fanes natural game is going forward, he looks at his best when he picks the ball up just inside his own half then goes on one of them runs leaving the opposition on their backsides. Robinson nearly ruined him last season by stopping him doing that. He looks a lot better player when he has the freedom to get forward. That's just my opinion of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetramfixer Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 hour ago, oafc1000 said: Fanes natural game is going forward, he looks at his best when he picks the ball up just inside his own half then goes on one of them runs leaving the opposition on their backsides. Robinson nearly ruined him last season by stopping him doing that. He looks a lot better player when he has the freedom to get forward. That's just my opinion of course. .. everytime he does that i always remember back to Dave Beharell (?) and his mazy run from deep with the ball seemingly stuck to his boot .. resulting in it finding the back of the net! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 hour ago, thetramfixer said: .. everytime he does that i always remember back to Dave Beharell (?) and his mazy run from deep with the ball seemingly stuck to his boot .. resulting in it finding the back of the net! Except Fane's shooting ability and passing ability leaves a lot to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 9 hours ago, rudemedic said: Except Fane's shooting ability and passing ability leaves a lot to be desired. It did. Let's see what a full pre season with Shez has done for him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 9 hours ago, rudemedic said: Except Fane's shooting ability and passing ability leaves a lot to be desired. I think his passing improved as the the season wore on. It was the lack of shooting which was his downfall, resulting in the attempted pass in front of goal when it would have been easier to score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, thetramfixer said: .. everytime he does that i always remember back to Dave Beharell (?) and his mazy run from deep with the ball seemingly stuck to his boot .. resulting in it finding the back of the net! David Beharell went on one mazy run lead to a goal against Wigan where a shot deflected and pearolled past the Keeper. On Fane's runs while he looks pretty imposing when he strides forward with the ball almost like YaYa Toure in his prime. What would be good is if it could lead to a goal or a killer pass at the end of it. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember one of these runs resulting in a goal. Like others I think he's best playing box to box I don't think he's got the positional awareness to play that roll yet. Playing someone with that positional awareness who will sit infront of the back 4 and start attacks might be the one thing that allows Fane to fulfill his potential. Banks does this a little bit to be fair and despite what people say he does tackle but perhaps we need someone that little bit better. Edited July 31, 2017 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 If Fane had the ability to pass or shoot on target he wouldn't be playing at Latics !!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Does anyone mind if I ask how come a thread about Ripley still being a possibility ends up with a discussion about Fane. Just wondered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, Bristolatic said: Does anyone mind if I ask how come a thread about Ripley still being a possibility ends up with a discussion about Fane. Just wondered. Take it for what it is Pete, at least it has not turned into a slanging match yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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